Boros minor additions

[ZillertheBucko]

1. Intelligence (and maybe limited stealth)
Released Boros was be able to sneak up on Saitama using the dust from his compressed energy beam, as seen below

it should be added to his intelligence section, though the rating doesn't need to change, it's just extra support for slightly lacking skill resume.
Given that saitama has enhanced senses, it could also be considered as a stealth mastery feat as well but that will be up for interpretation.
I will also add a standard tactics section to Boros' profile.

2. Scaling his laser to the speed of meteoric burst.
It is stated by Boros as well as the encyclopedia (and visually shown to an extent) that his meteoric burst form is propelled directly by the energy released from his body, as shown here.

and

meaning released boros' laser beam should be "at least relativictic+[.90c], possibly ftl [4.35c] (is used to propel his meteoric burst form movements, and as such should be comparable in speed)"
lasers being sol is always based you know.
3. Regeneration justification addition
Boros is stated by both himself and the guidebook to have the greatest regeneration in the entire universe, shown here:

in other words, it should scale above Melzargard, who has regen feats like this:

still high mid, but better than what he has currently. It'll also be important for any future members of his race

4. give boros pseudo flight
he can make twists and turns while airborne, like this:

while some of this is jumping, you can clearly see him curving around while already airborne in both scenes

meteoric burst should also have pseudo flight to a greater extent, due to the nature of his energy propelling him when using it.
in the anime it's blatantly flight in both forms but y'all weren't ready for anime boros


5. Adding a bit to his AP justification again
pretty simple, he was able to punch saitama through 2 pillars while saitama's one-punch could only throw armored Boros through one

adds to his existing scaling, and we should probably turn that possibly into a likely or remove it entirely.

anyways, here's how his standard tactics section should look, if we do decide to add it

• Unknown for armored form
• Will go hand to hand with his opponent, and occasionally shoot a beam of compressed energy next. His primary strategy against someone he can't overpower is to utilize his stamina and regeneration in a battle of attrition. If provoked, he will likely activate meteoric burst.
• Will charge full speed at the opponent and clobber them, doing what he can to end the fight quickly, including tossing them to space. When realizing that he was still inferior to saitama, he resorted to collapsing star roaring cannon as the last resort.

something like that
and lastly lastly, maybe we could decide on including the AP and speed values into his justification, Naruto style, to make things more convenient.
That's all for now.

 

[Phoenks]

1. Intelligence (and maybe limited stealth)

It isn't a feat of intelligence it was just a result from an explosion. It's smoke.

It isn't limited stealth either. Saitama wasn't trying to detect him because he has no reason to. Boros isn't a threat to him.

Not worth adding to the profile, imo.

Scaling his laser to the speed of meteoric burst.
It is stated by Boros as well as the encyclopedia (and visually shown to an extent) that his meteoric burst form is propelled directly by the energy released from his body, as shown here.

Him propelling his body by fueling himself with energy does not mean the energy attacks are all the speed he projects his body at.

3. Regeneration justification addition
Boros is stated by both himself and the guidebook to have the greatest regeneration in the entire universe, shown here:

I agree he should scale above Melz.

4. give boros pseudo flight

I agree.

 

[Kachon123]

Following

 

[ZillertheBucko]

It isn't a feat of intelligence it was just a result from an explosion. It's smoke.

Purposefully utilizing that smoke to attack him from behind is a good enough strategy, it's only above average IQ after all, and most characters tend to just punch punch kick in a lot of situations.

It isn't limited stealth either. Saitama wasn't trying to detect him because he has no reason to. Boros isn't a threat to him.
Not worth adding to the profile, imo.

he was looking for him, at least in the manga, which is why I believe it could be.
but I think it'd also be fine to just add as a standard tactic, since it was a deliberate choice anyways.

Him propelling his body by fueling himself with energy does not mean the energy attacks are all the speed he projects his body at.

the databook specifies that he uses the latent energy released from his attacks, like shown here:

so it doesn't function the same way as fuel, since the latent energy is generating its own momentum to propel him, rather than fueling an engine which is already capable of moving at those speeds.

 

[Chariot190]

Given that saitama has enhanced senses, it could also be considered as a stealth mastery feat

This is more like a stealth midery feat.

he can make twists and turns while airborne, like this:

The twists seem to stem from what looks to be an impact with the other "beam", aka Saitama (who by his same logic would also be given a type of flight), which leads me to believe in that instance, they aren't flying but merely clashing, changing their trajectory.

Boros is stated by both himself and the guidebook to have the greatest regeneration in the entire universe, shown here:

The guidebook further specifies natural healing ability. Is Mel's healing natural? If so i could maybe buy into this yeah.

The speed beam thing ain't so simple, as the energy needs to propel something atop of just itself, among other things.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

This is more like a stealth midery feat.

The twists seem to stem from what looks to be an impact with the other "beam", aka Saitama (who by his same logic would also be given a type of flight), which leads me to believe in that instance, they aren't flying but merely clashing, changing their trajectory.

well yeah, that’s why it’s only pseudo flight
it’s something that isn’t really possible without it, where he has some level of air mobility, but it’s kind of an unsustained version that mainly just allows him to air clash rather than travel. Just decided that acrobatics can’t really cover pushing off the air is all.
Also iirc saitama has pseudo flight for something similar

The guidebook further specifies natural healing ability. Is Mel's healing natural? If so i could maybe buy into this yeah.

Well natural healing probably is more so about the distinction between healing in a medical way (“unnatural” technology and outside sources like medicine) rather than a biological one, but the wording doesn’t really mean for sure that it’s about that
Luckily though, Melz is an alien, so it’s probably natural for his race to begin with, meaning it’s a non issue
and since Melz is 5 of Boros’ 7 right hand men, him making the claim that he has the greatest self recovery in general is more reliable for Melz specifically at least, even if one could argue that it might not be usable for someone like ZombieMan or black sperm.

 

[Chariot190]

well yeah, that’s why it’s only pseudo flight
it’s something that isn’t really possible without it, where he has some level of air mobility, but it’s kind of an unsustained version that mainly just allows him to air clash rather than travel. Just decided that acrobatics can’t really cover pushing off the air is all.
Also iirc saitama has pseudo flight for something similar

Well, he shouldn't lad, that's sussy af. Also nah that ain't flight, that's still just acrobatics. To give you an example I'm sure you'd recognize, it'd be like giving Jotaro pseudo-flight for punching a wall to redirect his trajectory mid-air.

Well natural healing probably is more so about the distinction between healing in a medical way (“unnatural” technology and outside sources like medicine) rather than a biological one, but the wording doesn’t really mean for sure that it’s about that
Luckily though, Melz is an alien, so it’s probably natural for his race to begin with, meaning it’s a non issue
and since Melz is 5 of Boros’ 7 right hand men, him making the claim that he has the greatest self recovery in general is more reliable for Melz specifically at least, even if one could argue that it might not be usable for someone like ZombieMan or black sperm.

What's the exact kanji used for "natural"?
Assuming Mel's bullshit is completely natural, I'm neutral ig, I can see it.

 

[Emerald]

Should’ve added physics manip to meteoric burst boros

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Well, he shouldn't lad, that's sussy af. Also nah that ain't flight, that's still just acrobatics. To give you an example I'm sure you'd recognize, it'd be like giving Jotaro pseudo-flight for punching a wall to redirect his trajectory mid-air.

Ehhh I’m not seeing it with that one

The different is just that he’s purely able to change his trajectory without touching anything, no wall punching no nothing
It’s just smash bros air mobility, but still, acrobatics is explicitly just jumping high and moving in fancy ways, which is different from being truly able to push off the air, even in a minor way.

Unless Boros has a stand, which would be pretty ******* fire

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

So is meteoric burst just the beam shot backwards?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

2. Scaling his laser to the speed of meteoric burst.
It is stated by Boros as well as the encyclopedia (and visually shown to an extent) that his meteoric burst form is propelled directly by the energy released from his body, as shown here.

and

meaning released boros' laser beam should be "at least relativictic+[.90c], possibly ftl [4.35c] (is used to propel his meteoric burst form movements, and as such should be comparable in speed)"
lasers being sol is always based you know.
3. Regeneration justification addition
Boros is stated by both himself and the guidebook to have the greatest regeneration in the entire universe, shown here:

in other words, it should scale above Melzargard, who has regen feats like this:

still high mid, but better than what he has currently. It'll also be important for any future members of his race

Neutral

1. Intelligence (and maybe limited stealth)
Released Boros was be able to sneak up on Saitama using the dust from his compressed energy beam, as seen below

it should be added to his intelligence section, though the rating doesn't need to change, it's just extra support for slightly lacking skill resume.
Given that saitama has enhanced senses, it could also be considered as a stealth mastery feat as well but that will be up for interpretation.
I will also add a standard tactics section to Boros' profile.

4. give boros pseudo flight
he can make twists and turns while airborne, like this:

while some of this is jumping, you can clearly see him curving around while already airborne in both scenes

meteoric burst should also have pseudo flight to a greater extent, due to the nature of his energy propelling him when using it.
in the anime it's blatantly flight in both forms but y'all weren't ready for anime boros

anyways, here's how his standard tactics section should look, if we do decide to add it

• Unknown for armored form
• Will go hand to hand with his opponent, and occasionally shoot a beam of compressed energy next. His primary strategy against someone he can't overpower is to utilize his stamina and regeneration in a battle of attrition. If provoked, he will likely activate meteoric burst.
• Will charge full speed at the opponent and clobber them, doing what he can to end the fight quickly, including tossing them to space. When realizing that he was still inferior to saitama, he resorted to collapsing star roaring cannon as the last resort.

something like that
and lastly lastly, maybe we could decide on including the AP and speed values into his justification, Naruto style, to make things more convenient.

Should be fine

adds to his existing scaling, and we should probably turn that possibly into a likely or remove it entirely.

Remove it entirely imo

 

[Chariot190]

Ehhh I’m not seeing it with that one

The different is just that he’s purely able to change his trajectory without touching anything, no wall punching no nothing
It’s just smash bros air mobility, but still, acrobatics is explicitly just jumping high and moving in fancy ways, which is different from being truly able to push off the air, even in a minor way.

Unless Boros has a stand, which would be pretty ******* fire

Gonna need a bit more than that, that is, in fact, a jump after all.
And again, the same would apply to Saitama (who's ding the exact same thing), who very explicitly can't do the thing you're implicating.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

So is meteoric burst just the beam shot backwards?

He just turns off power saving mode

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Gonna need a bit more than that, that is, in fact, a jump after all.
And again, the same would apply to Saitama (who's ding the exact same thing), who very explicitly can't do the thing you're implicating.

Saitama has pseudo flight for doing basically the same thing (just moments earlier) here https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/v...bullets.png/revision/latest?cb=20210802032613

So yeah we do give it for stuff like that.

 

[Chariot190]

Link the CRT that was given. Because whoever added that def didn't read the flight page.

Also link fail.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Link the CRT that was given. Because whoever added that def didn't read the flight page.

Also link fail.

I mean, it’s not flight, that’s why it’s called pseudo flight
it could be given a different name or something for all I care, but same situation.
Anyways I have no idea where the crt for it is

 

[Chariot190]

Are you going to be linking the Flight page? If so, saying it's "pseudo" is just hiding the fact that it isn't actually flight.

it could be given a different name or something for all I care, but same situation.

That different name would be Acrobatics lad

 

[ZillertheBucko]

That different name would be Acrobatics lad

listen here buster
it's just a thing that people do
if it's acrobatics for boros then it's gonna have to be acrobatics for most who have pseudo flight

 

[Chariot190]

listen here buster
it's just a thing that people do
if it's acrobatics for boros then it's gonna have to be acrobatics for most who have pseudo flight

Ok? I didn't say otherwise? Whoever you're talking about can be changed too, what makes you think I have issue with others getting tweaked?

Though it is a bit odd given I'm sure most people actually list stuff like that as enhanced acrobatics, like Double Jumping for example, aka stuff comparable to what you're proposing to be linked to flight.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Ok? I didn't say otherwise? Whoever you're talking about can be changed too, what makes you think I have issue with others getting tweaked?

Though it is a bit odd given I'm sure most people actually list stuff like that as enhanced acrobatics, like Double Jumping for example, aka stuff comparable to what you're proposing to be linked to flight.

what if I just don't link anything for now and just put in his P&A "can shift his momentum in the air" or something along those lines

 

[Chariot190]

I'd say ok but this sounds like one of those things where you come back in a month and go "As we know, it is accepted that Boros can do this thing, as such I propose to list it as pseudo-flight".

Assuming you don't pull that shit I guess that'd be fine imo.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Borse

 

[Dragonite007]

what if I just don't link anything for now and just put in his P&A "can shift his momentum in the air" or something along those lines

Flight:

• Pseudo-flight - A form of flight simulated by successive teleportation or jumps.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Flight:

• Pseudo-flight - A form of flight simulated by successive teleportation or jumps.

oh
well it'd probably be closer to restricted flight's levitation
but this means we'll probably have to remove pseudo flight from Saitama too then


also, meteoric burst's flight is still on the table then, I suppose.

 

[Recon1511]

Saitama has pseudo flight for the Io feat though which is meant to be a larger scale recreation of the constellation from chapter 156

 

[Chariot190]

oh
well it'd probably be closer to restricted flight's levitation
but this means we'll probably have to remove pseudo flight from Saitama too then


also, meteoric burst's flight is still on the table then, I suppose.

It ain't tho, they're just slightly changing mid-air trajectory, by unknown means at that, a lot of which looks like them clashing to do so.

They ain't doing no Samus Screw Attack or The Hand catching up to RHCP type stuff.

if it's any consolation, i think MB should have flight given in pre-redraw it blatantly had it and anime shows it as well, but they cut that and we don't use anime so by wiki standards he's kinda ******

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I mean MB still propels himself, and also has a more blatant levitation feat when he did csrc, so maybe flight is still fair game for him
he should be beyond double jumps at least
Bump

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Bump
We should probably also talk about the 5th change and the profile formatting changes too.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Bump

 

[EnderLord8]

Following

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I fully agree

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Even if you agree don’t forget to listen to lord chariot tho
The pseudo flight probably shouldn’t be added for released form

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Bumpos

 

[ZillertheBucko]

You should bump this thread NOW

 

[Coomandar]

a bump for you my husband

 

[ImposingTiger]

Neutral on stealth.

Also neutral on his Released laser scaling to MB's speed. Knowing that MB's punch inflicted much more damage on the ship than the laser, it gives me the impression that MB is just tapping into a much bigger amount of energy, even if its nature is the same.

Agree on regeneration. He was just toying and could have grown that arm back any time he wanted to.

Agree with pseudo flight. I know we don't use the anime as supporting evidence but it's pretty blatant there, both in Released and MB.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

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[ZillertheBucko]

bu

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[ZillertheBucko]

bump

 

[ZillertheBucko]

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