Blind Guy fights Oxgen (Shimazaki vs Jakago)

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

A Badass Blind Psychic see Everywhere vs Oxyge

Speed is equalised and Both are serious. 8-B key for Jakago. Fight takes place at Salt Middleschool.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Ryo Shimazaki vs Aki Jakago just to include links to profiles.

Anyway imo Shimazaki's precog helps him go keep away and might be able to get him enough hits to take this girl. Not voting yet though

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I'll add the links to the profile in the OP, good catch

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Shimazaki's first move is teleporting behind her and attacking, going off of his fights with Teru and the Seventh Division.

IDK how esper forcefields would interact with Abnormal abilities. Shiimazaki has a very potent shield for any attacks that he sees coming.

If he's pushed into Mind's Eye he can use pressure points as well to cause her to lose motor control temporarily.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Do Esper Shields negate hax? If they do, I do not know how it would interact with most of them, but she should still be able to get around it. She can make the air unreachable for people, so whether or not oxidation will work she can still do that, or go for something similar with oxygen poisoning

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Do Esper Shields negate hax? If they do, I do not know how it would interact with most of them, but she should still be able to get around it. She can make the air unreachable for people, so whether or not oxidation will work she can still do that, or go for something similar with oxygen poisoning

They would block anything that uses psychic energy, which is why I'm unsure how it would interact with Abnormal abilities. For example, stuff like Curses, Spirits, and Ghosts all fall under stuff that interacts with psychic energy.

Psychic forcefields in Mob Psycho are airtight going by Teru's fight with the pyrokinesis dude. So I'm not sure about her choking him out by poisoning the air. That said it would put a timer on how long Ryo can fight before choking himself out.

Ryo finishes battles fairly quick though. Does Aki have the dura to withstand him repeatedly teleporting around her for surprise attacks?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I see. I do not think his psychic shields would protect from Jakago's Abnormality, since they do not have any kind of soul or telekines aspect to them. Even if they were air tight, it probably would not protect anyway, since she should still be able to influence the oxygen inside his field.

They both finish battles fast. This battle seemingly comes down to if he can kill her before he suffocates from her making the oxygen unbreathable or toxic. She describes it as changing the "shade" of oxygen to have it do different things to different people.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

They both finish battles fast. This battle seemingly comes down to if he can kill her before he suffocates from her making the oxygen unbreathable or toxic. She describes it as changing the "shade" of oxygen to have it do different things to different people.

How long does this process take typically?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Is the ability massive in range?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

But to answer your question, she either gets one shot if we low ball and tanks it with ease if we high ball. Either way he has win conditions in the form of BFR, so how fast does he use it in character? I know he uses it based on the anime, but how often does he use it on the quick draw

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Almost all espers always have their barriers on. Usually this would be an issue since they have to be able to attack but some exceptions can attack while blocking at the same time. Like Teruki and Mob. So Shimazaki I can safely say always has it on. Then again he might just leave the range

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Ryo doesn't BFR in combat.

If Shimazaki is being choked he would just teleport however far he needs to go away, then come back when he thinks its safe.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Pretty much on the oxygen thing. What I can imagine is him teleporting and attacking again and again for hit and run.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Damn, I guess him doing it to the politician doesn't really count. Still not a stomp tho

That makes sense actually. Teleport away every time he is choking, but I guess that would just continue until she rusts him. She starts with either choking or rusting, with her going for rust when she wants to eliminate instead of control someone. It isn't instant, even tho it is thought based.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

How does rust work btw?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

She can kill things almost instantly by oxidizing them, even if they aren't usually able to be rusted. It takes only a few seconds for the body to be completely consumed

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Oh damn. Yeah that sounds fatal. Is she durable enough to last for a bit before going for that ability against a barrage of attacks?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

If you look at her profile, it depends on if you high or low ball her. If you scale her from being generally superior to all but the best specials, gets one shot, but if you scale her to being brought down by Book Maker and therefore superior to kumagawa in raw stats, she tanks the attacks with ease.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Hmm, honestly yeah it can go either way I suppose? Leaning on a tie rn. Pressure points might cripple her though if resident Greed gets serious

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I think I am probably gonna say that she is high balled, but that they are both serious.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Ryo doesn't BFR in combat.

I stand corrected.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Good to know

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

If not for TK Naruto- I mean Teru would be ded.

But yeah gonna vote for Ryo for now.

 

[Naeblis495]

how could jakago's super natural luck interact with the fight ? we didn't discuss it yet

also , ryo precog seems to be based around movements prediction wich won't much use against thought based ability no ?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

If not for TK Naruto- I mean Teru would be ded.
But yeah gonna vote for Ryo for now.

Based on what reasoning specifically?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Namely flight and hit and run stuff. Ryo's shields might defend him from rusting, and the moment he realizes he's being rusted he might go all out and go pressure point spam.

But I'm likely to change my mind. I just dont know how fast the rusting thing is.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Ryo would liberally abuse teleportation at every second in the match. If he can't punch or TK her to death, he activates Mind's Eye and pressure point KOs her, or teleports her far enough away to BFR.

 

[Naeblis495]

Namely flight and hit and run stuff. Ryo's shields might defend him from rusting, and the moment he realizes he's being rusted he might go all out and go pressure point spam.
But I'm likely to change my mind. I just dont know how fast the rusting thing is.

rusting is fast enough to cause instant incapp if she target the head ( sorry , can't link the specific page , should around p 23/24) :

https://mangarock.com/manga/mrs-serie-161087/chapter/mrs-chapter-161219

medaka box abilities aren't psychic in nature so i don't see why ryo's shield would be able to block them

in this match , jakago is 8-B , so she can tank a lot of ryo's attacks and he would probably need to use pressure points if he want to end her

what are the limits of ryo's teleportation for bfr uses ? he would need to teleport her far away enough that she would need 7+ days to come back for him to win that way , how likely is he to do that in characther ? he seems more the type of guy to want to beat his opponents instead of bfr them .

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

rusting is fast enough to cause instant incapp if she target the head ( sorry , can't link the specific page , should around p 23/24) :

I read through that, and it seems that Kumegawa was still able to react with a thought-based action before it killed him. Ryo would yeet the moment he notices something is up. That said, his main battle strategy involves so much teleport spam Aki wouldn't probably be able to land a proper hit.

medaka box abilities aren't psychic in nature so i don't see why ryo's shield would be able to block them

A lot of things in Mob psycho, which explicitly aren't psychic, such as spirits and ghosts, as well as curses, interact with psychic abilities. Medaka Box abilities wouldn't need to be psychic to interact with Mob Psycho abilities.

in this match , jakago is 8-B , so she can tank a lot of ryo's attacks and he would probably need to use pressure points if he want to end her

Won't argue against that. Although IDK why a haxxed 8-B stone wall was put against Ryo, but oh well.

what are the limits of ryo's teleportation for bfr uses ? he would need to teleport her far away enough that she would need 7+ days to come back for him to win that way , how likely is he to do that in characther ? he seems more the type of guy to want to beat his opponents instead of bfr them .

Several kilometers, give or take. He can spam it repeatedly though, so it wouldn't take more than a few dozen teleports until she'd be far enough away to be considered "BFR'd".

Actually, he just teleports and drops Teru in one of his major fights; the only reason it continued was because Teru could fly and retaliate properly.

 

[Naeblis495]

the thing is , even if he can tp away before being incap'ed / killed , it won't help because some of his organs would still be damaged .

so he could tp away but still die 2 seconds later because the damage would already be done .


if we argue that mob 100 shield work against her ability , would the shield be ble to be rusted ?

if it can , then jakago would have to keep a constant area around her where things would corrode to counter the shield and tp spam attempt

if he have to tp multiples times to count as bfr then she would have enough time to corrode him


if the shield can't be coroded and block all of her ability then shimazaki take this easy peasy as tp spam would make that jakago can't even touch him with physical blows .

we still didn't talked about jakago's supernatural luck and how it can influence the fight

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Her supernatural luck will probably make a difference if it is already close. It comes from the fact that abnormals naturally draw extremely unlikely but often favorable outcomes. One example is that Medaka literally any time medaka tosses die they will land in a perfectly verticle pile

 

[Naeblis495]

so we can expect shimazaki to trip at a crucial moment or something ?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Possibly, but it is unrelaible so I would only say it will work if it is already somewhat close.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Her supernatural luck will probably make a difference if it is already close. It comes from the fact that abnormals naturally draw extremely unlikely but often favorable outcomes. One example is that Medaka literally any time medaka tosses die they will land in a perfectly verticle pile

I'm rather skeptical about that, especially since you're using Medaka as an example, who is at the peak in the verse unless I'm mistaken.

Does Aki have the exact same level of luck?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

The supernatural luck thing applies to all abnormals

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

The supernatural luck thing applies to all abnormals

On the same level as Medaka?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Medaka has better grand scale luck due to her status as a Hero, but on the small scale it should be about the same. All abnormal are supposed to be able to guess a randomly generated password with a 1 in a million chance.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

I guess that's enough evidence for the supernatural luck making him trip up.

In all honesty I don't see Shimazaki taking this, mainly because he's primarily a physical attacker and she's well above the point where he can't harm her, and has hax that can insta-win if Shimazaki isn't careful.

I guess BFR is a wincon or pressure points but I honestly don't think they're enough to let him win.

Ah well.