Bleach Revisions Part 1: Soul Society Arc

[Damage3245]

Maybe the several other threads you e asked the same questions in?

I'm not going to go trawling through several past threads. If you have the link, then you can post it here, right?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Lol but you expect me to look through 3 novels for every single time lightning is mentioned because you're being unreasonable?

Just go to the Bleach subreddit or type in Miss Stormcaller into google.

 

[USklaverei]

The other feats aren't supporting the Onmitsukidō themselves being lightning speed, but showing other characters reacting to lightning attacks.

Can somebody post the link to the full novel instead of snippets?

Yes, this is Tokinada fighting Onmtsukido

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

The Shinji one was him dodging Candice Electrocution spam.

 

[Damage3245]

Yes, this is Tokinada fighting Onmtsukido

Do you have a link to the novel where this takes place?

 

[USklaverei]

https://missstormcaller.tumblr.com/post/185478384102/cant-fear-your-own-world-vol-ii-part-15-full

This is one of the parts

 

[Sekkonds.]

Yeah pretty sure lightning bleach isn't a hyperbole especially that it doesn't come from a character statment,the narrator himself states that they are moving at lightning speed

And using hyproble page,this is far away from being a hyperbole

"A general rule is that if a claim is made that is completely out of league of anything ever shown in said universe (for example, if someone claimed to be a planet buster in a verse where the strongest feats were city busting), it's most likely a hyperbole."

"For example, if someone in One Piece claimed that they could destroy an island, it's reasonable to consider it a possibility, since other people in the verse (ex. Whitebeard) have done comparable things (of course, it still has to be evaluated based on the feats and power-scaling of the actual character"

 

[Damage3245]

https://missstormcaller.tumblr.com/post/185478384102/cant-fear-your-own-world-vol-ii-part-15-full
This is one of the parts

Thank you. Do you know which part this snippet comes from?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

That's from the reddit translator I'm pretty sure.

 

[USklaverei]

I know it is further ahead, but I don't know which stretch.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

https://www.reddit.com/r/bleach/comments/9kzx8q/3rd_portion_of_cant_fear_your_own_world_ii_part/

It's right here.

"His own zanpakuto was confiscated years ago. He is now using a zanpakuto that only the Head of the Tsunayashiro clan may possess. The Four Great Noble Families have possessed inherited zanpakutos over the generations, like Muramasa, which could dominate other zanpakutos."

Soi Fon recalled Kyoraku's words while maintaining vigilance against Tokinada. Yoruichi, on the other handm who was treating the wounded, sighed.

"This is presenting a problem.. so many of our men dying..."

In response to that, Tokinada laughed, eliminating soldiers left and right.

"Plenty of Shinigami died in the war against the Quincies, these guys aren't that great in numbers."

"Hoh! So says the aristocrat who comfortably sat back and did not participate."

"Hahaha! Battlefields are so messy!"

Tokinada kept reflecting back the attacks of the assassins as he spoke. In other words, he was moving at lightning-speeds, keeping up with the swiftness that defined the Onmitsukido. Either that, or he was matching his movements and speed with those of his enemies. This was a testimony to his battle prowess. But he announced that he was still not up to the mark.

"And what's this I've been hearing? That the current Kenpachi did not even attend the Spiritual Arts Academy and has risen in ranks by merely stealing an asauchi from a dead Shinigami in the Rukongai?"

 

[Damage3245]

So we have two differently translated versions of it. Miss Stormcaller's version implies a very different interpretation of the scene than the reddit version.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

They're the same thing, just slight difference since StormCaller adds more and the reddit translator gets straight to the point.

Point is captains > assassins. That's pretty much the entire point.

 

[SheogorathMadness0]

Exactly, even the girl who translated said that their translation is more complete and reliable.

 

[Damage3245]

Do you have access to the original raws?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

No, not for volume 2.

 

[NoWaY802]

Bamp so we cgo for next arc

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Not yet, the lightning statements are still being discussed.

 

[Kidkinsey]

Well, since the wiki accepts even a tiny drop of blood scaling to characters I guess base Uryu can scale then.
So Unknown, possibly 7-A Mayuri and Uryu?

simply drawing blood means u scale? is this a case by case basic kind of thing?

 

[Blahblah9755]

If you can damage them in any capacity that doesn't require taking advantage of a weakness or use of hax then you would scale. Of course there's case by case aspects to this, especially if it's a situation like what often happens in fiction where bladed weapons or lava is treated as way above their tier. If it takes a lot of effort for something like a single drop of blood, it might be worth listing it with an "at most" rating (especially if the one injured is low in the tier).

 

[Kidkinsey]

i was thinking more so kid gohan drawing blood from 2nd form frieza or ichigo wounding aizen when he was still leauges below him

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Lightning statements were already posted, what is there to discuss at this point?

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

There are two different translations of the same statement.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Doesn't matter since the reddit translator said StormCaller's translations are better.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

You'll have to discuss it with damage since he's the one that's questioning it.

 

[Aernasilver]

Hmm. Since the translation is a bit sus, I guess we'll go with everyone scaling to MHS from the 4th seat fodder until the official translation comes out I guess. So Yoruichi's calc is nulled.

Is that fine with everyone?

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Doesn't matter since the reddit translator said StormCaller's translations are better.

There's also the question of it being just reaction speed, and another being aim dodging.

 

[Aernasilver]

How can it be aim dodging when the guy didn't even dodge. He reacted to the attack and swatted it away.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Read the comment by damage from 14 hours ago.

 

[Aernasilver]

Bruh. He is talking about the lightning speed stuff.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Bruh. He is talking about the lightning speed stuff.

Thats what I've been talking about this entire time.

 

[Aernasilver]

Which I said is nulled since we have a translation conflict hence my suggestion is to scale them to the 4th seat Shinigami fodder.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Dude, look at who I quoted when I was talking about the aim dodging and reaction speed. None of this was directed at you, other than those last two comments.

 

[Aernasilver]

I was talking about something completely different when you told me to check the comments.

My bad.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Which I said is nulled since we have a translation conflict hence my suggestion is to scale them to the 4th seat Shinigami fodder.

This should be fine then. An already accepted calc that isn't conflicting and with no issues.

Everything should be good to go then since that calc was already discussed and accepted.

 

[Damage3245]

Kenpachi Zaraki still has a + for his speed rating.

But aside from that everything else seems fine now.

 

[Aernasilver]

Will fix.

Thanks. I'll wait a bit more and if there is no more problems I'll apply the changes.

 

[Aernasilver]

Done with the editing. Staff can close this whenever they can.

 

[Kidkinsey]

arrrancar/espada arc is next?

 

[Aernasilver]

Mmhm