-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Bleach revision summary
- Thread starter LordAizenSama
- Start date
-
- Tags
- bleach
- Status
- 7,404
- 3,288
Welp. Okay then.TataHakai said:
- 29,980
- 25,149
Also, even if Yhwach's Reiatsu attacks were planetary; that would be based upon his Reiatsu emerging across the planets surface and preparing it to merge with the living world and Heuco Mundo, right? So therefore the amount of Reiatsu that Yhwach hits Aizen and Ichigo with would be much, much smaller based on what we can see. So therefore it doesn't scale to the amount of environmental destruction Yhwach is doing.
Therefore I can't see how Ichigo and Aizen are supposedly tanking planetary-level attacks when Yhwach's 'planetary destruction' comes from the environmental damage he's doing.
EDIT: And if this is based on Ichigo stabbing Yhwach in the back, then that was when he has his guard down or was a mix of PIS.
Therefore I can't see how Ichigo and Aizen are supposedly tanking planetary-level attacks when Yhwach's 'planetary destruction' comes from the environmental damage he's doing.
EDIT: And if this is based on Ichigo stabbing Yhwach in the back, then that was when he has his guard down or was a mix of PIS.
- 32,327
- 20,215
Gwyn has the city as 5106 meters. Does anyone know where that comes from?Soldier Blue said:
- 435
- 16
@Matthew Schroeder Just stop. I don't know why you're bringing up shit like that when we're specifically discussing Bleach here. Are you trying to start something?
- 14,973
- 8,954
actually naruto characters were downgraded for the same reason Bleach Characters were upgraded
- 29,980
- 25,149
Since we don't see Yhwach affecting the Earth or Heuco Mundo during his final battle against Ichigo and Aizen, and we can see him destroying the Seireitei and surrounding area, what rating does that give him?
- 5,231
- 708
- Thread starter
- #331
Damage3245 said:
- 14,973
- 8,954
@Apple likely very quickly, as Team 7 Had to defeat her within 10 manga panels and take her out before she could detonate it
- 267
- 146
But then we have already accepted higher scaling feats from casual feats though, especially if there are other statements of higher feats to support it.Matthew Schroeder said:
Yhwach's dimension merging feat for example, since he did state that he could do so.
- 5,231
- 708
- Thread starter
- #335
People trying so hard in any which way or form to deny 5-B bleach. Its actualy pretty funny
- 32,327
- 20,215
Pointing out the Naruto characters shows the extreme bias that Bleach goes through in this wiki, being upgraded despite quantifiable feats, calcs, or even through misinterpretation of the manga and its cosmology.
Frankly put, Bleach should be downgraded from 5-B.
Frankly put, Bleach should be downgraded from 5-B.
- 2,519
- 1,364
There is no timeframe for it, once the attack expanded enough it would destroy the dimensionAppleLord said:
However in Yhwach's case the dimension seemed to be crumbling little by little, there's nothing to really suggest he was going to destroy the entire dimension in one attack as his attacks were slowly destroying the area around them
To be honest the way Yhwach was going to destroy the dimensions was always controversial to start with, there's lots of evidence to suggest Yhwach was merely going to disrupt the flow of souls which since the first arc had already been established to cause all the dimensions to collapse into one A.K.A Yhwach's goal
- 435
- 16
@Matthew Schroeder The bias card? Oh boy, this is gonna be good.
- 29,980
- 25,149
That's not a rebuttal. There isn't enough evidence to justify it.LordAizenSama said:
- 5,231
- 708
- Thread starter
- #344
Umm no. Once again you are confused between two different events.
If Yhwach released his power to control souls collapse the world then no one would be stating ermagerd, Yhwach power is so great it can destroy the world. Because it is not his power. It is a absence of power and that logic does not fit here. As explained to you multiple,multiple times.
If Yhwach released his power to control souls collapse the world then no one would be stating ermagerd, Yhwach power is so great it can destroy the world. Because it is not his power. It is a absence of power and that logic does not fit here. As explained to you multiple,multiple times.
- 14,973
- 8,954
if 5-B Naruto is considered an Outlier, even though it has multiple low 5-b calcs, what makes Bleach Different?, Bleach has one vague 5-B statement and Country level+ feat.
- 32,327
- 20,215
The fact that so many people are using insults, ignoring argument, repeating the same statements ad-nauseum, and saying that whoever disagrees with them is wrong because "Downplayers" shows the complete lack of actual argument for 5-B Bleach.
There's no evidence, so it's just dancing around counter-points.
There's no evidence, so it's just dancing around counter-points.
- 32,327
- 20,215
Anyway. This is important.Matthew Schroeder said:
- 435
- 16
But like, why is everyone ignoring the fact that Yhwach as a corpse, has enough reiatsu to stop the annihilation of several planets?
- 5,231
- 708
- Thread starter
- #350
Can someone delete these comments about naruto?
- 32,327
- 20,215
1. Not planets. Addressed already. This is the statement ad-nauseum I was referring too.Piercer of Heaven said:
2. The Soul King controls the flows of souls. Unbalanced souls = Worlds collapse into each other.
It's very impressive Soul Manipulation which requires a large Reiatsu. It has absolutely nothing to do with 5-B levels of power.
The end. That's a fact. Ignoring that at this point is deliberate misinterpretation.
- 7,404
- 3,288
If I see one more argument about Naruto's god tiers, I will close this thread. Make a separate thread for that!
- 29,980
- 25,149
Why would that matter? We don't know what level of energy is needed to stop the collapse of the worlds in Bleach; only that the Soul King acts a lynchpin. There could be a narrow threshold between destruction and stability; which means that the energy of the Soul King / Yhwach doesn't have to be equal to the destruction of the planets.Piercer of Heaven said:
- 32,327
- 20,215
No, they point out the bias of a series with vague statements and Country level+ calcs becoming 5-B while one with multiple Low 5-B calcs and 5-B statements isn't.LordAizenSama said:
It can't even be denied. The pro-Bleach bias is strong.
Edit: Didn't see Blue's comment.
- 14,973
- 8,954
@Apple Because TSB have shown to be able to detonate
- 5,231
- 708
- Thread starter
- #358
2450 messages and counting and not one thing is going to change out of all of it. Woohoo!
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
