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Reishi light predates light. Why are they similar? They literally do not behave the same at all
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Once again, both of you get on tracki feel like this is being over complicated to the point of absurdity
Reishi light > real lightbetween you and apple the argument is confusing
is it" all reishi is ftl", even though that is contradicted
or is it "this one move is LS"
Candice Reishi lightning is said to be above nature’s lightning.Reishi light predates light. Why are they similar? They literally do not behave the same at all
This, no one except apple is calling all reishi light speed, and if so for diffrent reasons, this is not at all relevanteither mask's beam is exclusively LS
Reishi and kishin are basically the same diference is interactionI am on track
I have two arguments given to me that contradict each other
either mask's beam is exclusively LS
or all reishi is
which is it
As I said before from what I have personally seen you argued that the reflection shouldn't be happening so and so way because Zabimaru is a flat surface which was argued against.You can act like ignoring the multiple citations i have provided
This is totally irrelevant. You claimed that if heat was present that means the beam in its entirety should have been absorbed and should not have reflected and somehow counted it as an anti feat. I literally provided evidence that disproves this entirely. To generate heat the entire beam does not need to be absorbed only a portion of it is enough. Mask's attack can emit how much ever heat it doesn't matter. Renji's sword didn't absorb the entire beam and the rest was reflected off the sword.The suns rays arent hot enough to vaporize a human, not on earth. The beam is concentrated. For it to cause that smoke in the spot mean the metal absorbed enough heat to cause smoke.
This is where i tell you to stop dwelving too much into physics. This is fiction ffs. Ofc physics should be used as a base to evaluate feats but this is literally is digging deep into it. Its already told you why such statements do not work in fiction. By this logic I can literally claim that MFTL should not exist since nothing in the universe can move faster than light. His attack was concentrated at a singe point as simple as that.If you want to argue against concentration, that opens up: why isnt the air literally burning
It does tho. Some of the beam was absorbed by the sword and rest was reflected off. You saying the angles of incidence is not equal to the angle of reflection isn't a counter. It is nitpicking and putting the author on a pedestal to draw each and and everything with perfect knowledge of physics and take the time to draw them based on that.The beam doesnt act like diffusion reflection. At all
this is candice on the novels which is weaker than when she was on the war arc due to Yhwach taking away power form themApple, all you have proven is that reishi light predates light
pre·date1
/prēˈdāt/
verb
exist or occur at a date earlier than (something)
nothing about it being faster
Candice's reishi arrows are slightly slower than lightning or at best equal
only electrocution is considered above lightning, and even then they dont mention speed
Again, kubo has drawn proper reflection, in the same arc.As I said before from what I have personally seen you argued that the reflection shouldn't be happening so and so way because Zabimaru is a flat surface which was argued against.
This is totally irrelevant. You claimed that if heat was present that means the beam in its entirety should have been absorbed and should not have reflected and somehow counted it as an anti feat. I literally provided evidence that disproves this entirely. To generate heat the entire beam does not need to be absorbed only a portion of it is enough. Mask's attack can emit how much ever heat it doesn't matter. Renji's sword didn't absorb the entire beam and the rest was reflected off the sword.
This is where i tell you to stop dwelving too much into physics. This is fiction ffs. Ofc physics should be used as a base to evaluate feats but this is literally is digging deep into it. I literally told you why such statements do not work in fiction. By this logic I can literally claim that MFTL should not exist since nothing in the universe can move faster than light. His attack was concentrated at a singe point as simple as that.
It does tho. Some of the beam was absorbed by the sword and rest was reflected off. You saying the angles of incidence is not equal to the angle of reflection isn't a counter. It is nitpicking and putting the author on a pedestal to draw each and and everything with perfect knowledge of physics and take the time to draw them based on that.
They refer to her lost vollstandig. Do you have a citation for her base being affectedthis is candice on the novels which is weaker than when she was on the war arc due to Yhwach taking away power form them
I was referring to the latter.Apple, all you have proven is that reishi light predates light
pre·date1
/prēˈdāt/
verb
exist or occur at a date earlier than (something)
nothing about it being faster
Candice's reishi arrows are slightly slower than lightning or at best equal
only electrocution is considered above lightning, and even then they dont mention speed
Candice Reishi lightning is said to be above nature’s lightning.
when, why does that meet this frankly arbitrary definition of "true reflection"Again, kubo has drawn proper reflection, in the same arc.
General. It wasn’t said to be power.Not in terms of speed.
the statement was in general, damage.Not in terms of speed.
when, why does that meet this frankly arbitrary definition of "true reflection"
When visible light is absorbed by an object, the object converts the short wavelength light into long wavelength heat. This causes the object to get warmer. But this is only part of the story as to why Earth is warm. ... When absorbed, the short wavelength sunlight is converted to long wavelength heat.
Actually, the first statement for it in the novel specifies power. I've read the official translation.the statement was in general, damage.
renji scene is far different. Star goes out flat like a 2d shape on a non flat surfacejust like in the renji scan the light is in a branching arc (idk how to describe) plus it has smoke
I already pointed out why this is irrelevant. Two different feats. Two different angles. Doesn't mean he can't portray it wrongly. He isn't a scientist or physics expert to measure the aoi and aor and make it equal for each and every feat involving light. He is a mangaka ffs.Again, kubo has drawn proper reflection, in the same arc.
And I and various members have argued against it. First of all Renji's Zabimaru has several ridges from where his blade extends and if you see the scans again Mask's beam covers two to three of its ridges. This itself can be argued to be the cause of diffusion reflection. And again you are holding the author to a high pedestal when each of his rays has to be properly reflected then only it can be considered as light. Such standards are held to no other verse here.Diffusion reflection is for NON FLAT surfaces. I've given citations as to why this isnt that.
And I am still sticking to it lol. You claimed why didn't the atmosphere burn. I claimed that this was an AOE fallacy and that Mask could just be concentrating his attack to a point which is why the atmosphere is not affected which is why the atmosphere was not affected.You argued AOE fallacy for the light.If you are going to argue it, then stick with it and dont half argue it. It being concentrated is a valid point
Those two statements are not relevant to each other. Even in the manga Liltotto makes fun of Candice that 5 Gigajoules of power will not harm Ichigo.Actually, the first statement for it in the novel specifies power. I've read the official translation.
So let me ask you again.My issue with quincy arrows isnt this scene.
i agree with you that this scene is rather good to prove it as light
my issue is stuff like explosions/impacts happening rather often with these.
Light doesnt do that
It seems there is a misunderstanding here. The surface of zabimaru isnt flat. We agree on this.And I and various members have argued against it. First of all Renji's Zabimaru has several ridges from where his blade extends and if you see the scans again Mask's beam covers two to three of its ridges. This itself can be argued to be the cause of diffusion reflection. And again you are holding the author to a high pedestal when each of his rays has to be properly reflected then only it can be considered as light. Such standards are held to no other verse here.
light that explodes, since that means it doesnt act like photons, for oneSo let me ask you again.
Should we remove all LS feats based on “beams of light” and “lasers” interacting with matter? That includes light cutting feats.
the power of the arrows yes, for electrocution the statement was generalActually, the first statement for it in the novel specifies power. I've read the official translation.
Scanslight that explodes, since that means it doesnt act like photons, for one
reason this is relevant, and tying in with your first point. it being concentrated and a few meters long should mean the star should diffuse aand go out at angles, likewise to several meters. that doesnt happenAnd I am still sticking to it lol. You claimed why didn't the atmosphere burn. I claimed that this was an AOE fallacy and that Mask could just be concentrating his attack to a point which is why the atmosphere is not affected.
scans for?Scans
Don’t make exceptions. All or nothing.light that explodes, since that means it doesnt act like photons, for one
What exceptions?Don’t make exceptions. All or nothing.
Explosions.What exceptions?
thats an exampleExplosions.
I already debunked this earlier. Electromagnetic waves produce momentum which has massWhat?
Again Photons have mass. provide a source they dont
Lasers can move at light speed
Laser smashes light-speed record – Physics World