Bleach Downgrade: Meteor Calcs

[Sekkonds.]

Which is x7

Like he creates 1 clone plus real Gremmy but his power be x2

 

[Dr.Fix]

it was 6 so using Imade's:

1 Gremmy: 5 teratons (Small country+)

YHWH (Base) small country level +

Ichibei- Small country level+

Base Zaraki, Unohana, Pernida (Evolved) and Nemuri (Triggered)-Small country level plus or higher

Giant Gerard-At least Small country+

2 Gremmy 10 teraton (Country level)

Shikai Zaraki Country level

God's Authority Gerard- likely country level

Adult Toshiro likely Country level

six Gremmy 30 teratons

Bankai Zaraki- Country level

Not sure if Royal Realm Byakuya scales

Yamamoto Small country level

Royd Large Island level

Loyd -Ideally varies but if we stick with twin scaling large Island level

Assuming we go with Imade's anyway.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Why are you only counting 6? 7 Gremmys is a x7 multiplier.

Twin scaling makes no sense when we can just scale Loyd to timeskip Kenpachi.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

.... Why would base Yhwach be low 6-B+ while Gremmy is 6-B? You make like zero sense. Your scaling is nonsense and where does High 6-C come from?

 

[MachTwo]

I see 7 Gremmy here , but I do not think they're counting on the real one, right?

Prob with real gremmy, I only see 6 clones here

 

[HST_Master]

@Dr.Fix

Where did those scaling changes come from? The ratings would have no effect on the scaling.

 

[Dr.Fix]

Most of the scaling is the same I think. Only changes are Yamamoto & Royd who were brought up to be changed but haven't been yet with the meteor discusion taking so much time.

EDIT: Ah I guess I added Base Zaraki, Unohana, Nemuri, and Pernida preemptively. Those ones are still pending approval since Soldier went MIA about the same time.

 

[HST_Master]

@Fix

You have people scaling to Base Gremmy when all High 6-As ultimately scaled from Kenpachi's feat.


God Size Gerard directly fought a Eyepatchless Shikai Kenpachi

And Base Kenpachi, Unohana, Nemuri and Pernida I'm not sure got accepted yet.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

• Byakuya Kuchiki - Post-Royal Guard Training goes down to 6-B for fighting God Size Gerard.
• Gerard Valkyrie - God Size | Quincy: Vollständig go down to 6-B for God Size matching Shikai Kenpachi and the latter being more powerful than his previous form.
• Gremmy Thoumeaux - Base | With Clones goes down to Low 6-B for Base and 6-B for With Clones.
• Ichibē Hyōsube - goes down to 6-B from Yhwach scaling.
• Ichigo Kurosaki - Post-Dangai Training | True Shikai | go down to 6-B from Post-Dangai Training being equal to True Shikai and the latter scaling from Yhwach.
• Jugram Haschwalth - goes down to 6-B from tanking Yamamoto's Bankai flames.
• Kenpachi Zaraki - Shikai | Bankai go down to 6-B from Shikai destroying Gremmy's meteor and Bankai being more powerful than Shikai.
• Loyd Lloyd goes down likely 6-B from power-scaling to Royd Lloyd
• Royd Lloyd goes down 6-B for fighting Bankai Yamamoto.
• Shigekuni Yamamoto Genryusai - Thousand Year Blood War Arc (This should be called Bankai) goes down to 6-B from Yhwach stating only he could handle Yamamoto's Bankai power.
• Sosuke Aize - Chrysalis Aize | Transcendent Aize | God Aize go down to 6-B from Post-Dangai Training Ichigo scaling.
• Tōshirō Hitsugaya - Matured Bankai goes down to 6-B for fighting God Size Gerard.
• Uryü Ishida - Thousand Year Blood War Arc goes down to 6-B from scaling to Jugram.
• Yhwach - Base | With The Almighty | Mimihagi Absorbed go down to 6-B for being overall more powerful than Gremmy, granting Gremmy his power and imprisoning Gremmy.
• Zangetsu - Merged Form goes down to 6-B for being equal to Post-Dangai Training Ichigo Kurosaki.

 

[The_mysterious_man]

Seriously Yamamoto has his own High 6A Calc that what god tier scaling above https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:USklaverei/Bankai_Yama

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

That calc appears to be rejected by multiple Calc Group Members.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

It's an overtime feat of 100 teratons per second according to DMUA, not High 6-A since it wasn't a single attack.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Hm? Didn't we have a similar issue with the negative ball from Omega Shenron but we decided since the ball has all of the energy, even if it's overtime, then it should scale?

But maybe I am remembering wrong. Anyway, I am happy this seems to have been decided.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Don't know, sorry.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

So has this been accepted?

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Seriously Yamamoto has his own High 6A Calc that what god tier scaling above https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:USklaverei/Bankai_Yama

Can this be in it's own CRT and not here, please?

Also this has been accepted, the profiles for the locked characters need be open to make changes.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I can unlock them for you.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Profiles been unlocked for months.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I have unlocked, Ichigo, Aizen, Uryu, and Yhwach's profiles; only ones that were locked. Let me know when you're done.

 

[SomebodyData]

Guess its too late for me to say I agree with IMade's calc too right, lol?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Lol, you good.

Anyways these profiles don't need to be locked and i've already edited the profiles.

 

[Aernasilver]

Nice. Hopefully this will be the end of this discussion for good.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

If only it was that easy.

 

[Damage3245]

Calc list on verse page needs to be updated.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Nice. Hopefully this will be the end of this discussion for good.

doubt it

 

[Xulrev]

Is there a way to make a discussion rule about this for Bleach since we can conclusively prove the statements are superior, and every staff member has agreed to it so far in this thread?

 

[Damage3245]

I don't think we ought to try and set a precedent through rules that only statement-based calculations are worth considering in Bleach.

 

[Omimi]

if u do that then get ready to to loss bleach 5-C cuz its using pixel scaling no?

 

[Xulrev]

if u do that then get ready to to loss bleach 5-C cuz its using pixel scaling no?

If that's what occurs that's fine by me. Accuracy is what we worry about, it's confusing to me you make a comment such as this Omimi. New calcs will need to be made obviously, so let's see what happens shall we?

 

[AppleLord]

If the statement rule gets implement - a storm will hit the discussion board once Prime Soul King gets a page. He basically split a universe in two dimensions made of different types of matter that don't mix. Oh, boy.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

That's your interpretation of the text, I don't think many would interpret the text like that at all, myself included.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

So how strong does the novel make the god tiers?

 

[BlackeJan]

so we good here? what we got?

 

[Dr.Fix]

• Byakuya Kuchiki - Post-Royal Guard Training goes down to 6-B for fighting God Size Gerard.
• Gerard Valkyrie - God Size | Quincy: Vollständig go down to 6-B for God Size matching Shikai Kenpachi and the latter being more powerful than his previous form.
• Gremmy Thoumeaux - Base | With Clones goes down to Low 6-B for Base and 6-B for With Clones.
• Ichibē Hyōsube - goes down to 6-B from Yhwach scaling.
• Ichigo Kurosaki - Post-Dangai Training | True Shikai | go down to 6-B from Post-Dangai Training being equal to True Shikai and the latter scaling from Yhwach.
• Jugram Haschwalth - goes down to 6-B from tanking Yamamoto's Bankai flames.
• Kenpachi Zaraki - Shikai | Bankai go down to 6-B from Shikai destroying Gremmy's meteor and Bankai being more powerful than Shikai.
• Loyd Lloyd goes down likely 6-B from power-scaling to Royd Lloyd
• Royd Lloyd goes down 6-B for fighting Bankai Yamamoto.
• Shigekuni Yamamoto Genryusai - Thousand Year Blood War Arc (This should be called Bankai) goes down to 6-B from Yhwach stating only he could handle Yamamoto's Bankai power.
• Sosuke Aize - Chrysalis Aize | Transcendent Aize | God Aize go down to 6-B from Post-Dangai Training Ichigo scaling.
• Tōshirō Hitsugaya - Matured Bankai goes down to 6-B for fighting God Size Gerard.
• Uryü Ishida - Thousand Year Blood War Arc goes down to 6-B from scaling to Jugram.
• Yhwach - Base | With The Almighty | Mimihagi Absorbed go down to 6-B for being overall more powerful than Gremmy, granting Gremmy his power and imprisoning Gremmy.
• Zangetsu - Merged Form goes down to 6-B for being equal to Post-Dangai Training Ichigo Kurosaki.

There is so much wrong with this list.

 

[BlackeJan]

Oh boy....

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

I guess not.

 

[Damage3245]

A new thread should probably be made for scaling but this line:

> Tanked Yamamoto's Bankai flames which are made from his own Reiatsu

Should not be in Jugram's AP section. There was a big revision about this ages ago for how we word the AP/durability ratings in regard to the character's Reiatsu.

Also, are we sure that Yama's passive heat is 6-B?

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

That list was literally all the previous High 6-A. There isn't anything wrong with it, all of them move down to the new 6-B.

@Damage

I agree with that, but that will most likely need to be its own thread seeing as there is a calc for Yama's passive heat that yields some interesting results after it was fixed by DMUA.

 

[Damage3245]

@IMade; are you referring to this calc by AppleLord?: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...tsu_Gokui_.28Attack_Potency_.26_Durability.29

Results of that puts Yama's passive heat at Low 6-B, and Royd's durability at High 6-C.

 

[Dr.Fix]

A new thread should probably be made for scaling but this line:
> Tanked Yamamoto's Bankai flames which are made from his own Reiatsu

Should not be in Jugram's AP section. There was a big revision about this ages ago for how we word the AP/durability ratings in regard to the character's Reiatsu.

Also, are we sure that Yama's passive heat is 6-B?

Yama's energy output was calc as small country level repeatedly ages ago by Apple, Gwen, Executor, and others on this site, on comicvine, naruto forums, and the OBD to name a few. Royd's durability is high 6-C going by the highest calcI've seen.