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I think we can lean toward Imade's version of the calc.
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Bleach Downgrade: Meteor Calcs
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Maybe, but it is best to ensure we don't overlook any statements being shown in the manga we may or may have missed as honestly I am just as confused as the next person regarding this debate.DarkDragonMedeus said:
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There are none. This discussion has been had before too many times.
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Can't believe people are actually still debating over a downgrade that will result in a downgrade anyway. Lmao.
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There's one statement I left out which is Yhwach and a soldier referring to Yhwach's empire and Soul Society as countries.HammerStrikes219 said:
Also since Yhwach's empire lies in Soul Society's shadow, being the same size and all.
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@Imade
In that scan, the soldier mentioned region in plural form and I think Yhwach mention "Not this country" as in singular form though.
In that scan, the soldier mentioned region in plural form and I think Yhwach mention "Not this country" as in singular form though.
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That is because he's a conqueror, it's implied he conqured a great deal of what I assume was europe.
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Whether we take statements over pixel scaling or pixel scaling over statements, it's going to be inconsistent. Someone should take a version of the feat that just uses pixel scaling and one that just uses statements and put it in the calc group discussion thread.
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@Sigurd Europe is a continent though and I believe a country can have regions too IIRC.
So that sounds like conjecture tbh here.
So that sounds like conjecture tbh here.
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What is your angle?HammerStrikes219 said:
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What is your angle?
Hmm as mentioned I am neutral to this, but tbh if we can not find a reasonable solution to this debate, then a compromise may be needed. Something that would satisfy both sides. Unfortunately I myself don't know if there will be a good solution for this other than the case by case method tbh here.
Hmm as mentioned I am neutral to this, but tbh if we can not find a reasonable solution to this debate, then a compromise may be needed. Something that would satisfy both sides. Unfortunately I myself don't know if there will be a good solution for this other than the case by case method tbh here.
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I don't think you understand how things work here given you are new.HammerStrikes219 said:
While you remain neutral, realize the current votes so far. We don't compromise, we go with what we believe to be more accurate and truthful thus why we are voting for which calc to use: one that uses pixel scaling or one that uses statements.
Which is why in the previous debate and this debate we've been discussing the topic. In the previous debate we decided how inconsistent pixel scaling is given how inconsistent the art is and which is why I made this calc that's up for possibility that uses solely statements given how consistent they are.
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We don't determined by votes alone though as that is an appeal to popularity. I think reasoning and other things such as credibility is what factors in what sides should be used or not.
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Yes, and? Perhaps you might want to go through several CRTs before making such a statement and also stop avoiding the reasons given in favour of the OP? There is a general agreement among the credible members, and I fail to see why your confusion is yet to be resolved.HammerStrikes219 said:
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Hmmm no need to be so condescending toward a recently new user like me here. I still unsure on how this will turn out.RegisNex1232 said:
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@HammerStrikes, You're not a terribly new user considering you created your account 11 days ago and have several thousand edits already and know how to navigate the wiki given you leapt in on Rules Report Violations threads from the get-go, something a newb should have no clue of how to work. No need to hide behind the 'new user' veil.
Also, generally, this thread was not created to continue the dispute of statements vs art. We have already discussed that at length and knowledgable members supported the conclusion that the statements are consistent and the aerials are too indeterminate. The calcs themselves are what the thread is about.
Also, generally, this thread was not created to continue the dispute of statements vs art. We have already discussed that at length and knowledgable members supported the conclusion that the statements are consistent and the aerials are too indeterminate. The calcs themselves are what the thread is about.
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@Xulrev
True though I still find myself new to certain things here and is a bit familiar with Fandom. To be specific, I did originally came from the Fate Grand Order Wiki I think. Has occasionally gone to the Community Central one too.
Overall there are things I still not used to.
True though I still find myself new to certain things here and is a bit familiar with Fandom. To be specific, I did originally came from the Fate Grand Order Wiki I think. Has occasionally gone to the Community Central one too.
Overall there are things I still not used to.
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Pachi, when will you ever stop coming to HST threads to derail and troll? At least contribute to the discussion.PaChi2 said:
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He already admitted that he doesn't take this site half seriously. Whatever that means.
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Welp.
I think I already agreed in another thread with the statements only calc. If that means we wont need to recalc everything every few months because someone decides to use some panels instead of other panels.
@Aernasilver I see you like to derail too. Cool.
I think I already agreed in another thread with the statements only calc. If that means we wont need to recalc everything every few months because someone decides to use some panels instead of other panels.
@Aernasilver I see you like to derail too. Cool.
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If you want to go by statements that's fine, but don't ignore other statements such as characters training for weeks without rest or food. Orihime included. Do the calc without the rest low-ball because is a contradiction to the agreement of using statements.MachTwo said:
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@AppleLord; Yoruichi doesn't really say who she is based the '10 day walking statement' on. It could be based on an ordinary citizen's walking speed / rate, and not any of the superhuman individuals in the room with her.
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^That
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to be fair,most of the time,when someone states to Ichigo "you need X time to do Y" based on some sort of averages, Ichigo retorts with something like "ill do it faster" or " i can keep up longer"Damage3245 said:
if he says nothing in response,doesn't that imply him agreeing with said timeframe?
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Some people have posted scans on this thread - but I think it'd be clearer if a blog post was made that listed every single major visual we have of Seireitei, and break down exactly how they contradict each other.Dr.Fix said:
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It seem that most of staff members in this thread are agree with Imade's version. someone call ant to evaluate this.
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@Damage
Don't forget the majority of the shinigamis also have Flash Step (Also known as Shunpo I think) or some other speed techniques demonstrated throughout the Bleach series I think.
Don't forget the majority of the shinigamis also have Flash Step (Also known as Shunpo I think) or some other speed techniques demonstrated throughout the Bleach series I think.
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There ya go people. Y'all need staff evaluation so yeah....might wanna go ask now
Haven't Staff already been participating on the thread?
Haven't Staff already been participating on the thread?
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I remember - but Yoruichi didn't mention Flash-Step.HammerStrikes219 said:
If we assume that they used Flash-Step for 10 days straight, then Seireitei would have a diameter bigger than the distance between the Earth and the Moon.
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