Bleach Bankai General Discussion Thread XX

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Where's the thread where it was decided that SK has Yhwach and might have Sternritter abilities?

 

[Naeblis495]

pretty sure it's this one :

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3167125

 

[Hasch]

I mean Dangai and EoS Ichigo, I shoulnd't post half sleep lol

 

[Amlad22]

Dangai = True Shikai. It's been stated by Yhwach himself.

 

[Hasch]

Yes but EoS shikai Ichigo's reiatsu can be sensed so he shouldn't be at the same level as when he defeated Aizen.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

I don't think that's a reasonable argument. The people who can sense him are far stronger than the people from the arc which Dangai debuts from. ALong with the fact that Kubo more than likely just...Dropped the whole "You can't sense said person anymore"

 

[Naeblis495]

aizen's reiatsu can be sensed too and yet there is a clear statement tha he got even stronger in muken.

as proven at how casually he unleashed a gigantic kurohitsugi without the chant when his buterfly form needed the full incantation to unleash something similar .

 

[Hasch]

aizen's reiatsu can be sensed too and yet there is a clear statement tha he got even stronger in muken.
as proven at how casually he unleashed a gigantic kurohitsugi without the chant when his buterfly form needed the full incantation to unleash something similar .

They never feel Aizen's reiatsu, they probably couldn't even if he wasn't trascendental since it is contained around his body by the restrictive binds.

 

[Amlad22]

Also you can physically as strong as someone but have less reiatsu. It's not always the same. Look at Shunsui, he's not that strong compared to the top tiers but possesses massive amounts of reiatsu.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Is this the same f#@!#$ argument of "They can be sensed so therefore they're no longer as strong as Dangai Ichigo and Monster Aizen !" Even though they're fighting Yhwach, who absorbs the Soul King who is literally the strongest thing in the verse, states more than once he has the same power he had of when he defeated Aizen. Aizen is capable of fighting Yhwach by himself for a while before needing the help of Ichigo. Which everyone states that Aizen is stronger than when he fought Ichigo, this is not contradicted when considering everyone gets info on how the fight went

Especially if somehow Tsukishima knows about the fight with Aizen despite only Ichigo being apparently there

 

[Naeblis495]

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obviously . /sarcasm

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

The whole concept of "Transcendant" Reiatsu got abandoned.

 

[Zezu1995]

trancendant was only for dangai amped .. after he lost his power it didnt matter anymore.. he has power on par with it but the whole dangai dimension feeling w.e.. IMO is gone so thats why they sensed him is how i understand it

 

[Zezu1995]

question muken is cut off form SS as a inf sized voided.. but does that do anything SK ?

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

I like to believe Muken is all hyperbole for now to ignore Tier 3 stuff.

 

[AppleLord]

Maybe "transcendent" was just a word to point out when a character is on another level beyond your own that you can no longer sense or interact with that character? Why do I say this? Because Isshin said Aizen's reiatsu couldn't be felt during his cocoon form, but Ichigo told him that he could still sense Aizen's power and maybe that's why Gin was also able to harm Aizen, because Gin was on a level superior to that Ichigo who was able to sense Aizen's reiatsu. Think about it? How did Gin found Aizen without sensing his reiatsu when he left Matsumoto unconscious? ƒñö

 

[KazuiK]

Why did Ichigo remove power absorption resistance because he resisted Bankai theft?

 

[AppleLord]

Someone didn't made a CRT when adding that resistance.

 

[The_mysterious_man]

It was made in the same tread that he made him got the possession resistance

 

[AppleLord]

Isn't this size manipulation?

 

[W0NDER3X]

Isn't this size manipulation?

I also brought it up a while ago and it pretty much covers every part of SK, which obviously scales to SK as well.

 

[Ovy7]

Where was it stated that Ichigo recovered his powers after Yhwach's defeat? And how much time after?

 

[AppleLord]

Where was it stated that Ichigo recovered his powers after Yhwach's defeat? And how much time after?

Ichigo got his powers restores from Tsukishima and Orihime's past & casuality manipulation team up. Ichigo later on got back the powers that Yhwach took from him, so he got a another power up.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Ichigo got his powers restores from Tsukishima and Orihime's past & casuality manipulation team up. Ichigo later on got back the powers that Yhwach took from him, so he got a another power up.

Does that mean Ichigo is twice as strong by the time of CFYOW and at the ten year time skip epilogue ?

 

[AppleLord]

Probably, knowing Ichigo he is sitting in his house writing novels and going to school to teach history or whatever his job is. Isn't Ichigo a literature teacher/writer or something?

 

[AppleLord]

Ichigo got GOHAN!

 

[Naeblis495]

perfect then , i never understood why people are unhappy with gohan just living his happy married life , it make perfect sense for a characther that never liked to fight to begin with .

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Yeah if I recall Ichigo went to study English Literature or somehting once he entered college

 

[fandom_6MudaMudaMudaMudaMuda9]

Can bleach characters fly outside bleach universe?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Yes

 

[AppleLord]

Can bleach characters fly outside bleach universe?

If there's no Reishi they cannot, however, Jump Force says otherwise.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Technically it's walking.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

What do you mean "fly outside the bleach universe"? They have limits you know. For instance they can suffocate if put in water made out of reishi. If it's just in regular material space probably until their juice runs out and can't walk in the air anymore.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Isn't their "flight" them just hardening their Reiatsu under their feet to walk on air?

I don't see why they won't be able to that out of verse.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

I made an official calc on Gran Rey Cero and included a large number of the scaling to get us moving again.

 

[Aernasilver]

Just reposting this to keep track of all the calcs. (Rip the lightning calcs)

Island level: 6-C
Fullbring Ichigo's Cloud Split

Large Island level: High 6-C
Yama destroying Karakura Tow, Gran Rey Cero (Accepted), Toshiro's Hyoten Hyakkaso

Small Country level: Low 6-B
Normal Cero, One fragor

Country level: 6-B
Aizen's Ultra Fragor, Urahara's Hado 99 (Accepted), Cero Oscuras

Continent level: 6-A
Bankai Yama Vaping Soul Society (Accepted)

Multi-Continent level: High 6-A
Ulquiorra's Lanza

 

[AppleLord]

Isn't their "flight" them just hardening their Reiatsu under their feet to walk on air?
I don't see why they won't be able to that out of verse.

Jump Force says otherwise.

 

[Naeblis495]

Isn't their "flight" them just hardening their Reiatsu under their feet to walk on air?
I don't see why they won't be able to that out of verse.

Jump Force says otherwise.

since when a game hold any kind ground for stuff like that ?

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Geez, how many Ceros are there?

 

[AppleLord]

Isn't their "flight" them just hardening their Reiatsu under their feet to walk on air?
I don't see why they won't be able to that out of verse.

Jump Force says otherwise.

since when a game hold any kind ground for stuff like that ?

Someone asked for evidence and seems they are official in away, even if they are not canon, we can take them with a grain of salt over headcanon theories.