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Bleach Bankai General Discussion Thread #4
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I've had profiles for Koga Kuchiki and Muramasa in mind for quite a while.Dangai Ichigo said:
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Show us then. ovoSoldier Blue said:
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There is this anime feat which I think could put Koga and probably even Jin Kariya at High 7-A or baseline 6-C. Just have to do that calc and get it evaluated first.Veloxt1r0kore said:
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I wanted to make a Hanataro profile, but unfortunately, he doesnt have any feats on the manga, besides being knocked out by Kenpachi reiatsu.
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He is weak even by the standards of someone of his rank.CursedGentleman said:
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He almost killed that Menos Grande, okay?!
Not to mention that other shikai of his in which it turns into a giant canon.
Otherwise he should still be very durable, since he did survive an attack of Rukia, who herself is a 7-C, while she was under mind control.
Not to mention that other shikai of his in which it turns into a giant canon.
Otherwise he should still be very durable, since he did survive an attack of Rukia, who herself is a 7-C, while she was under mind control.
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When did Hanataro almost kill a Menos Grande?
A very weakened Rukia on the brink of death outright one-shot Hanataro.
A very weakened Rukia on the brink of death outright one-shot Hanataro.
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Anime Filler (He fatally injured the Menos Grande, then Yumichika appeared and said no u to and also slashed at him, it kinda looked as if they did 50/50 damage due to how the markings on the Menos Grande body was like a blue and green X)
Well, he didnt die, that should still count, since she is still 7-C oof
Well, he didnt die, that should still count, since she is still 7-C oof
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It's anime only when he almost kills the Menos Grande.
But he did have some snippets in the Volume Chapter endings when Kon takes over his body and fights random Shinigami, defeating them and eventually facing Kenpachi.
But he did have some snippets in the Volume Chapter endings when Kon takes over his body and fights random Shinigami, defeating them and eventually facing Kenpachi.
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Again I would like to point out that Rukia was extremely weakened then. And I would like to point out that it is more an endurance feat than a durability feat. It is well established in this verse that Shinigami have crazy endurance.CursedGentleman said:
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By the way, do you know how strong Arturo Plateado would be?
I mean, the dude did whipe the shit out of Seireitei and all, not to mention that I thought in making a page on Seizen Suzunami, but I would need to make three keys on him, and I have no idea where he would belong.
I mean, the dude did whipe the shit out of Seireitei and all, not to mention that I thought in making a page on Seizen Suzunami, but I would need to make three keys on him, and I have no idea where he would belong.
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By the way, could we make a key for Hanataro while he had the Sokyoku shards?
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There should be an update for Shikai Yamamoto if someone could do it, I could provide the info and scans.
As we know, Yama's Shikai was stated by Aizen to be able to disintegrate an area many times the size of Karakura Town. Plus Yama contained that blast point blank with his body.
The recent novel update stated that Karakura Town was so large it has a population of 1 million. This reminded me of a discussion I had with Soldier Blue about Karakura Town's size on a Message Wall.
In the UNMASKED Databook it stated that Gin's Bankai was really 13km long and that Gin demonstrated the true length by cutting the skyscrapers of Karakura Town. I provide a screenshot, the Kanji and a translation to prove it here.
With the given map of Karakura Town by Kubo, we could figure out an accurate size of Karakura Tow and then determine Yamamoto's Shikai output / his durability when multiplied per Aizen's statement.
I can't calc nor do I have experience with CRT's and blogs, so I can help whoever wants to take the task.
As we know, Yama's Shikai was stated by Aizen to be able to disintegrate an area many times the size of Karakura Town. Plus Yama contained that blast point blank with his body.
The recent novel update stated that Karakura Town was so large it has a population of 1 million. This reminded me of a discussion I had with Soldier Blue about Karakura Town's size on a Message Wall.
In the UNMASKED Databook it stated that Gin's Bankai was really 13km long and that Gin demonstrated the true length by cutting the skyscrapers of Karakura Town. I provide a screenshot, the Kanji and a translation to prove it here.
With the given map of Karakura Town by Kubo, we could figure out an accurate size of Karakura Tow and then determine Yamamoto's Shikai output / his durability when multiplied per Aizen's statement.
I can't calc nor do I have experience with CRT's and blogs, so I can help whoever wants to take the task.
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Oh yeah, forgot that Fullbring Bankai Ichigo destroyed it just by activating Bankai. The discovery of Karakura's true size would benefit him too.
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Why not?AppleLord said:
I'm pretty sure most statements are worth a lot in all series if said by reputable sources, and this statement isn't particularly ludicrous.
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Statements are overlooked when they contradict what has been shown in the series, are obviously hyperbolic in its wording, or the source is not reputable. The same goes for author statements and canonical or non-canonical guidebooks.AppleLord said:
But saying that statements are meaningless and should automatically be rejected is just wrong.
Aizen, before becoming a power-hungry monster after fusing and evolving with the Hogyoku, was brilliant and should be more than capable of sensing Yamamoto's power and making an accurate statement about its destructive capabilities.
It isn't seemingly hyperbolic in its wording, there's nothing ridiculous like Yamamoto having "infinite power" or something like that.
And finally, this is the first time in the series that we had a real statement on Yamamoto's destructive power barring "he's the strongest" or that he "has the strongest Zanpakto" or something along those lines.
I don't see why this statement wouldn't be taken literally.
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Except this space is calcable. I literally gave proof for a 13km blade fitting inside of it. We have a map of Karakura Town, so a size could be determined from it using that. Aizen's statement just tells us that Yama's Shikai is capable of destroying an area many times the size of Karakura Town.
It's all valid.
It's all valid.
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"Couple" is two
"Several" is more than two but not many
"Many" would therefore be four at the minimum, so the calc would assume he turns an area four times the size of Karakura to ash as the lowballed end
Source: Google Dictionary
"Several" is more than two but not many
"Many" would therefore be four at the minimum, so the calc would assume he turns an area four times the size of Karakura to ash as the lowballed end
Source: Google Dictionary
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You can take the size needed for destroying Karakura Town and multiply it by different numbers.AppleLord said:
Take a Low, Mid, and a High end.
What's the problem, exactly?
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Are you serious? We have a map, a confirmed length. Finding Karakura Town is simple and requires no more.
Then it's easy to apply to Yamamoto per Aizen's statement. We've taken worse statements for lesser calcs. We have explicit things here to go off of.
Then it's easy to apply to Yamamoto per Aizen's statement. We've taken worse statements for lesser calcs. We have explicit things here to go off of.
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Nice, wait Ichigo destroying Yukio's dimension would be what ?
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My recommendation:
In the case of a word indicating a simple plurality (such as 'multiple', dozens, hundreds, thousands, etc.), it'd be best to go with 2, 24, 200, 2000 and so on (as a safe low end).
In the case of words such as 'few', it'd be best to go with three as a low end. In case of things like 'few dozen' and 'few hundred' (and so on), it'd be best to go with 36 and 300 respectively (and so on).
In the case of words such as 'many' and 'several', low end of 4 is acceptable. In the case of many dozens and hundreds (and so on), then 48 and 400 (and so on).
In the case of a word indicating a simple plurality (such as 'multiple', dozens, hundreds, thousands, etc.), it'd be best to go with 2, 24, 200, 2000 and so on (as a safe low end).
In the case of words such as 'few', it'd be best to go with three as a low end. In case of things like 'few dozen' and 'few hundred' (and so on), it'd be best to go with 36 and 300 respectively (and so on).
In the case of words such as 'many' and 'several', low end of 4 is acceptable. In the case of many dozens and hundreds (and so on), then 48 and 400 (and so on).
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Alright, well I have all the scans and translations needed. If you would like to do it just message me. If not, I guess I can find someone else to calc it.
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Post the quote here. Then we'll see what can be done.
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There should be an update for Shikai Yamamoto if someone could do it, I could provide the info and scans.
As we know, Yama's Shikai was stated by Aizen to be able to disintegrate an area many times the size of Karakura Town. Plus Yama contained that blast point blank with his body.
The recent novel update stated that Karakura Town was so large it has a population of 1 million. This reminded me of a discussion I had with Soldier Blue about Karakura Town's size on a Message Wall.
In the UNMASKED Databook it stated that Gin's Bankai was really 13km long and that Gin demonstrated the true length by cutting the skyscrapers of Karakura Town. I provide a screenshot, the Kanji and a translation to prove it here.
With the given map of Karakura Town by Kubo, we could figure out an accurate size of Karakura Tow and then determine Yamamoto's Shikai output / his durability when multiplied per Aizen's statement.
I can't calc nor do I have experience with CRT's and blogs, so I can help whoever wants to take the task.
All the scans and evidence is there. It goes back to our discussion with Frantzy about determining Karakura's size through the databook, Soldier.
As we know, Yama's Shikai was stated by Aizen to be able to disintegrate an area many times the size of Karakura Town. Plus Yama contained that blast point blank with his body.
The recent novel update stated that Karakura Town was so large it has a population of 1 million. This reminded me of a discussion I had with Soldier Blue about Karakura Town's size on a Message Wall.
In the UNMASKED Databook it stated that Gin's Bankai was really 13km long and that Gin demonstrated the true length by cutting the skyscrapers of Karakura Town. I provide a screenshot, the Kanji and a translation to prove it here.
With the given map of Karakura Town by Kubo, we could figure out an accurate size of Karakura Tow and then determine Yamamoto's Shikai output / his durability when multiplied per Aizen's statement.
I can't calc nor do I have experience with CRT's and blogs, so I can help whoever wants to take the task.
All the scans and evidence is there. It goes back to our discussion with Frantzy about determining Karakura's size through the databook, Soldier.
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Literally, every shinigami should have memory manipulation
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It's not really combat applicable unless I guess they were bloodlusted. But for accuracy's sake, it should be added.
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Urahara has it too, Ichigo questions if Urahara took his friends memories at the end of the Arrancar Arc and Urahara says he didn't this time. And when Rukia was taken by Renji and Byakuya, everyone forgot about Rukia and didn't know she existed.
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@IMade is right. Erasure of memories of humans appears to be a standard practice. It makes sense that any Shinigami sent to the human world would have the memory manipulator as standard equipment.
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