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Bleach Bankai General Discussion Thread 22

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I'll answer this here cause doing so in the original thread is likely off-topic:

LordWhis said:
Ovy7 said:
Priority: 2 - scales to the Lieutenants and the weaker Espadas
Verse: Bleach

Description: Chad punches Gantenbainne with La Muerte , creating a huge hole in the wall of Las Noches, likely by vaporization based on Chad's previous feats and this thread . For scaling, the dots in the last scan are a group of Arrancars , 172cm in hight based on their wiki entry .
Why would Chad scale to a lieutenant ? A weaker version of him roflstomped a third seat and Shunsui chose to take him on personally. He should be above a typical lieutenant.
Chad is at best as strong, if not weaker, than the top-tier Lieutenants like Renji, Rukia, Hisagi, Ikkaku (not a Lieutenant, I know, but Renji himself stated that Ikkaku could become a Captain), and probably a couple more. So those should most likely scale to La Muerte.
 
How strong are the Fracciones (of Barragan and Harribel, to be more exact) compared to Privador Espadas? Because, if they are stronger, then the Lieutenants that defeated the Fracciones could likely scale too to La Muerte.
 
Privaron espada are strong enough to shit on shikai ichigo and force him to go bankai , a weaker shikai ichigo ******* on multiples lieutenant on the sokyoku.
 
Privaron Espada are > Fracciones. The only reason they're Privaron is cuz the current Espada were stronger. Lieutenants are easily capable of ******** on or fighting on par with Fracciones (Rangiku and Momo vs Tres Bestias before Ayon was pulled out, Shuhei stomping Findorr even though he supposedly was as powerful as a captain with most of his mask gone, all of Grimmjows group)
 
Chad was portrayed as stronger than Rangiku during their tag team fight (though she may have been restricted but again she did say something along the lines of there was soul protection so she could go all out)

She clearly held his raw power in high regard saying that there was no way the bount would be able to survive the attack he used to surprise Kyoraku.

Also Shunsui said a direct hit from would have caused him trouble and Shunsui isn't just leagues above a typical lieutenant, he's leagues above a typical captain, being about a thousand times as strong as SS arc Kenny who could stomp the blind captain who was above average in his own right.
 
On an earlier message someone was talking about which of the captains surpassed Yama-ji by EOS-

I think Shunsui, Aizen and Unohana both have a chance against him because of their hax (especially if Unohana's Bankai actually liquefies people)

Hitsugaya has the raw power to compete and his abilities counter Yama-ji well.

Byakyuya has the raw power to just tank whatever he throws at him and beat him down until he's dead.
 
Bount Arc is non canon so that doesn't matter much. That was also 1st Arm Chad who was smacking Tier 8/7 Hollows around without even having the reiryoku to see them and one shotting once he could. Devil Arm is so far beyond him its not even funny.

As for the scaling, only Bankai Renji and Ikkaku would be scaling tbh and thats a big maybe. Giant Arm was strong enough to harm Gantenbainne but was getting blitzed. Devil Arm = Shield Arm (offense to defense) >>> Dragra >> Gantenbainne >=< Giant Arm which spooks Shikai Ichigo and fights Bankai Renji.
 
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