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BlazBlue: Terumi's Power's and Abilities

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Kazuma was not in the control anymore. They were not even using the same body. Terumi lost connection with Kazuma in phase shift 1. The phase shift 2 takes place after terumi is sealed inside alucard castle. He had no connection with Kazuma anymore.

"Izanami was observing him. Once she stops, he's gone (which kinda proved useless considering Terumi's self-observation). If she could erase him that easily, why couldn't she do that with the other characters in the series if she wanted to?"

Is not because she is obverving him. Rachel stated that she is powerful (maybe even more powerful) as the black beast itself.

And Terumi asked the same thing in the prologue of Chronophantasma. "You could have easily killed every single one of them. So why you didn't?". She said that she "has her reasons"

I don't remember Hakumen stating such a thing.

Yea, in that timeline Hakumen failed. But in central fiction Terumi still said that. Perhaps he is referring to some timeline which Hakumen kills Izanami. Somehow
 
Terumi and Kazuma fused at the end of Phase Shift 1. He was captured by Valkenhayn and Clavis sealed him away. Terumi was the host of Kazuma's body at that point. Nine needed Terumi as what he knew was important in fighting the Black Beast so she broke his seal and used the Mind Eater curse to keep him under control. Here, Terumi split his consiousness with Kazuma's so while Terumi's mind was under the Mind Eater curse, Kazuma's was not and he took over his body throughout the entirety of the Phase Shift series until Trinity broke the Mind Eater curse and Terumi was unleashed.

Agreed on Izanami's strength, but Izanami was indeed observing him. The ending of Continuum Shift showed that he got Izanami to observe while he infected Takamagahara with Phantom's virus.

Rachel did state that Hakumen at 100% would still have plenty of trouble against Izanami. Hakumen said that he and Jubei combined would still have trouble against her. Both these statements were made in Chrono Phantasma's mind-bending story.

EDIT: Also, Hazama has a Lfe Link with Noel, which makes him immortal through that (not relevant to our current discussion, but it's something he has).
 
Hm true. Forgot about that. But still, there is no proof of Kazuma not being able to acess the power of the dark susanoo.

Yes she was. But that is not the only reason of why she is able to erase terumi without much effort.

So far in Central Fiction, she showed to be damn powerful. She was able to fight Hakumen at equal peace.

Hakumen in central fiction is even stronger than he was in chronophantasma. In his fight with Ragna in arcade mode, Ragna said "What is going on!? I can't even hit this guy!"

And Ragna at this point is stronger than he was in the events before the creation of embryo, said by Kagura and Azrael

Yes. Rachel's statement shows how much powerful Izanami is.

But I don't remember Jubei being stated to have chances against her (something that I don't deny, though)

Also, Terumi is weaker than Jubei, like was shown in continuum shift and in chronophantasma. In continuum shift, Jubei catches Terumi off guard (in Hazama's gag reel), and Terumi seems to just accept the fact that Jubei will kill him and doesn't even try to put on a fight.

In chronophantasma, Terumi is shown to be in panic when he discovered that he fell on an trap used to made his true form appears, saying "This means... This means that damn cat's sword can reach me now!"

And Jubei is not stronger than Hakumen.
 
I'm not entirely sure where to post this, but didn't Ragna train with Rachel's natural lightning attacks when he was younger? I'd figure that Terumi could still scale to those and Rachel got weaker as the series kept going, which would make him potentially FTL, depending on how you handle the scaling.
 
Sorry but after reading this thread I had a thought. From what I understand Mind Eater is a cuse that makes people follow orders like when Nine placed it on Terumi during the Dark war and when Tsubaki was cursed with it. It has never shown that it wipes peoples memories. Not just that Terumi has never shown the ability to wipe peoples memories outside of Hazama's body. Here's my theory, it's Hazama who, in his words, 'eats peoples memories'. I believe that this is due to Hazama being an Azure Grimmore and the fact that in Blazblue souls and memories are connected. In Blazblue the soul is like a hard drive that stores information of a person such as memories, personalities etc, etc. Hazama, who is an Azure Grimmore has the ability to absorb souls as shown in when he goes overdrive and that Azure Grimmore are couldrons which is fueled by souls. This statement of Hazama being the one with with mind wiping abilities due to his grimmore and not being Terumi's own power is supported by Ragna the Blooedge's actions during CF. When Ragna discovered what was actually happening in the game Ragna began to hunt down the entitles to defeat them and devoure their dream. Before Ragna fought Kagura he asked Kagura his dream where Kagura was able to answer easily but after the two fight with Ragna using soul eater Ragna was suddenly transported. Kokonoe then asked Kagura his dream and the latter was unable to reply with the answer he gave Ragna as he doesnt recall his dream. Ragna demonstrated this again when he fought Bang. He asked Bang his dream, Bang answers, the two fight and this time Ragna asks Bang what is his dream again and Bang answers that he does not recall. He even attempted to do this to Lambda when Lambda ask Ragna was he going to kill her but Ragna said that he isnt and that he wanted to make her 'forget' so I'm preaty sure that Hazama is the one with memory wiping abilities since his Azure Grimmore grants him an ability similar to Ragna's but as Yuuki Terumi/Hazama stated that his was a better version so who knows, maybe he is more profficient at eating memories than Ragna but I believe he does. I think memory wiping should be added to these two instead of Terumi.
 
Also belive it or not even though Yuuki Terumi is not wielding the Susano'o it is belived that he can still draw power from it. Its believed that either it was a side effect from wielding the Susanoo before or it was because terumi was the original wielder and has it ever crossed anyones mind that Terumi may also not be at full power? Wasnt he and Hakumen sealed in the boundary together? Also when the TA system observed Terumi they were only able to keep him alive but he was unable to stay conscious. In fact it was stated by Rachel that Terumi had to observe himself so that he can be the one to terrorise Ragna's childhood instead of Hazama. He even tricked Noel to observe him to completely gain cosciosness and even so Noel was still immature and her abilities were not developed so its doubtful that Terumi regained his full power when he couldnt even stay conscioss a few minutes ago even when he had the TA and Ragna's hatred to anchor him. In fact I believe Terumi may have been more severly weakened than Hakumen. I mean think about it. He never stated he was at full power. Even with Noel tricked into observing him Yuuki Terumi still needs to be observed by Izanami and anchored by Ragna's anger to continue to exist after he took care of Takamagahara and Rachel stated that Terumi should not be able to exist and she was fully aware of Terumi's ability of using peoples hatred to anchor himself at the time and the fact that Terumi tricked to observe him. Heck, she sealed away most of her emotion so that he couldnt take advantage of her. So the reason why Izanami can erase Terumi with no effort is more likely due to Terumi needing her to observe him since even Rachel found it suprising he still exist despite knowith about Noel's observation and Ragna's hatred. This may also show that Terumi is not at full power.
 
Probably not a side effect from him wearing it. Terumi didn't just WEAR the Susano'o Unit, he is the Unit itself. Hakumen being in the Unit would be equivalent of Terumi being in Jin's body. I'm pretty sure his astral finish is just him taking on the form rather than anything, considering he can take the form of a human even outside of a vessel.
 
I think he's weaker than he originally was, but definitely not more than Hakumen. Terumi despite being weaker was still stepping all over Hakumen in their last battle until he pulled out Time Killer, and was able to deal with the majority of the cast pretty handily. Even then, Terumi being weakened is probably part of the fact he's a soul outside of a vessel, in his original body he's arguably the strongest character character in the series other than Amaterasu, Noel, and Ragna after getting the true azure.
 
Susano'o is listed to have immunity to soul hax. But why was Ragna able to pull Terumi out of the Susano'o unit?
 
No idea, Jubei was able to pull him out too so... we should change that and also does anyone else agree that Hazama was the guy eating memories and not Terumi?
 
@Drellix I think that seems reasonable.
 
There's something else. Im preaty sure Hazama also grows stronger when feeding on negativety towards him. Before he fought Ragna he told him about him torturing Saya which makes him angry and hate Hazama who latter states that he now understands how Terumi can get stronger from hatred, then he proceeds to activate Blazblue which suprises Rachel because he was not supposed to be able to activate it without Terumi in him and if you recall Hazama has never used it since being seperated from Terumi until he mase Ragna hate. Could this mean that all of Terumi's vessel have the ability to draw megativety from others to become stronger? Also, I think Terumi can draw power from hatred and anger towards him as well. He stated that Ragna hating him was helping him anchor himself to the wordld
 
Hazama doesn't grow stronger from being hated, it's just the only thing he can really seem to feel. If anything, I think shapeshifting should be added to Terumi's abilities.
 
Are you sure? If that was the case than why was Rachel suprised that Hazama could activate Blazblue without Terumi inside him? She clearly stated that Hazama shouldnt be able to do it.
 
She never said he shouldn't be able to, but she was surprised that he did. As to why isn't really explained. Maybe she thought his body wouldn't be able to handle it. Oh yeah, add teleportation for Susano'o too. Both in one of his intros and during the story he uses it, specifically when he teleports to the Forbidden Gate
 
Was it? I don't recall. Whatever the case is, what do you consider that then? In his intro cutscene he just sort of falls down out of a pillar of flames or something. I'm not sure if it's some form of flight or what, since they don't really touch on Susanoos abilities all that much.
 
Do you think we should add the fact that his fusion is incomplete as a weakness on his page? Theoretically he wouldn't have this problem normally, but in Central Fiction this was this case, though it's never specified why. My only guess is that it was because Hakumen was still alive. (He talked to Trinity before she sealed the unit in the boundary)
 
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