Bill vs. Khorne rematch

[Sound_of_Infinity]

For some reasons, I think this deserves a rematch. Although I think this could be a stomp. But we'll see...

Anyway, 2-A Bill was used against 2-B Khorne

Who will win?



You call yourself a God? Don't make me laugh.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Khorne is a conceptual being so Bill can't kill him. What else can he do?

 

[PaChi2]

Bill claps and khorne and the Warp go poof.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Please tell me thats a joke...

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Actually, he might not be wrong.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

He is tough. Bill only has that range through breaking the laws of physics and causing the whole thing tp collapse pn itself.

And stuff like it being conceptual or nonexistent counters blasting it anyways

 

[Kaltias]

He is tough. Bill only has that range through breaking the laws of physics and causing the whole thing tp collapse pn itself.

And stuff like it being conceptual or nonexistent counters blasting it anyways

That depends from the type of concept actually.

Aristotelian concepts are destroyed if the thing they represent is destroyed, for example

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And how is Bill going to desteoy something he himself has? And pretty sure it relies on the warp in this key too, which means that breaking laws won't help much at all.

 

[Kaltias]

I wasn't saying that Bill can do it, I was just explaining.

Also since when the CG rely on the Warp? Pretty sure that their type 8 is based on people feeling the emotion they embody/doing the stuff they embody.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I did say I think. Though his realm would need to be destroyed for him to die.

Nevertheless, Bill shares the feelings he relies on anyeays

 

[PaChi2]

Isnt Khorne weakened if there is no enough quantity of what he represents? If Bill is literally the only thing remaining after a multiversal collapse it might be enough to incap you know.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Too bad Bill doesn't really do that, especially when fighting.

He porpusfully make the wirld caotic, and takes several hours in the least to collapse a single universe. Even if he were to affect all dimensions at once, it would take hours.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Doesn't Khorne's power null only work on beings weaker than himself?

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

What can Bill do to bypass Mid-Godly?

@Shadow Yea, I think so.

 

[PaChi2]

What can Bill do to bypass Mid-Godly?

@Shadow Yea, I think so.

2-A destruction bypasses mid godly.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

In that case, Khorne still has conceptual manipulation which can kill Bill.

Also now I'm not even sure if Bill's law manipulation is that good. It's not like Homura's where it's shown to strip 2-A abstracts of their powers.

Voting for Khorne if this isn't still a stomp.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I thought the only way to bypass mid godly was to collapse the higher dimensional structure on top of them. So shouldn't Khorne come back from 2-A erasure if he is 2-B?

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Bill: 0

Khorne: 8 (Kep, Tony, Shadow, Ricsi, Uselessnoob, jimboy, DaBigP, TheC2)

Inconclusive: 1 (Wokistan)

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Also should I SBA this?

 

[PaChi2]

Also should I SBA this?

You should bloodlust Bill, if anything.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

2-A and 2-B are both 4D, so destruction won't bypass Mid-Godly. You need to be High 2-A to bypass Mid-Godly on a 4D level by nuking.

 

[PaChi2]

I thought the only way to bypass mid godly was to collapse the higher dimensional structure on top of them. So shouldn't Khorne come back from 2-A erasure if he is 2-B?

You only need to collapse the dimensional structure they are from, collapsing higher dimensionally bypasses high godly (since High-g is coming from dimensional destruction on your level).

 

[PaChi2]

2-A and 2-B are both 4D, so destruction won't bypass Mid-Godly. You need to be High 2-A to bypass Mid-Godly on a 4D level by nuking.

That's the requirement to bypass High-godly.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Regardless, bill won't be able to get around it because of type 8 relying on something he has.

 

[Wokistan]

Isnt Khorne weakened if there is no enough quantity of what he represents? If Bill is literally the only thing remaining after a multiversal collapse it might be enough to incap you know.

That's not really correct. You'll notice the emperor's plan to get rid of the Chaos God's by not letting anyone know about their existence didn't exactly work, and the very act of causing that scale of destruction would if anything enhance knorne. By killing the multiverse like that, Bill has committed the ultimate Khornate act.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That's 40k chaos

 

[Wokistan]

This seems similar to the whole sigmar scenario, where Bill won't permanently kill khorne, but khorne can't really do anything to Hillary. I'd say incon as of now.

 

[Wokistan]

The CGs work the same way in both Zach.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

What would it be if you could regenerate from being erased along with a higher structure? Would that just be a higher degree of high godly?

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

What would it be if you could regenerate from being erased along with a higher structure? Would that just be a higher degree of high godly?

Yeah

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

That makes sense then. If you trapped somebody in a pocket reality, and erased it, they would need high godly to survive right?

 

[Kaltias]

No.

High-Godly means that nothing is left excluding higher dimensional space.

Regenerating from the destruction of a pocket reality is Mid-Godly at most

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Wait, so you wouldn't need high godly Regenerationn to come back from 2-A erasure if you were 2-B then? I'm confused

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

2-A erasure is not inherently better or harder to resist than 2-B erasure.

But if the person deletes the entire infinite multiverse that you exist in, you have nothing to come back to.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Too bad bill doesn't erase it. He makes it a lawless chaotic hell. Doubt that is enough to get past mid-godly.

And even if bill did erase it, khorne could regen from bill himself

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

So coming back from a pocket universe being erased along with you, when you are 3D, then that is Mid Godly Regen;

But if you come back from multiversal+ erasure when you are 2-B, that's high Godly?

I really so not understand the distinction you guys are making

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

So coming back from a pocket universe being erased along with you, when you are 3D, then that is Mid Godly Regen;
But if you come back from multiversal+ erasure when you are 2-B, that's high Godly?

I really so not understand the distinction you guys are making

Because if it's only a pocket reality you are erased from, there is still the rest of reality to regenerate into.

But if everything is gone, there's nothing left to come back to.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

If it's a verse with one dimension, universe, etc. and it was erased, then a 3D can get high-godly from it then, right?

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

So what's your vote?