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Even if the upgrades proposed here go through even though ricsi has disproven many of them bill will still be a pushover mostly due to lacking any sort of resistance to or meaningful way to harm most people in his tierJooCipher said:
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Bill Cipher Dreamscape Key and Other Upgrades
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have you seen his balls to the walls hax?
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None of them work on 4d beings soTotallynotchewbacca said:
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i would assume they work if he himself becomes 4-D would they not?
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Why would Bill's haxes not work on 4D beings? I never got that.
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i dunno i think because he is infinite 3-D high 3-A not limited 4-D high 3-A
i was never really knowledgeable on this so i may not be much help
i was never really knowledgeable on this so i may not be much help
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Because Bill hasn't shown any feats of doing so. He only used his hax to mess with 3D people.Bill With A Mouth Solos said:
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but would it work if he himself was 4-D?
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Still a no, but he wouldn't be getting haxed by non-smurf 3Ds.
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humph,he has the basicallythe best hax but he can't use them against the main demogaphic of people he faces off with!
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>Has basically the best hax.
>No conceptual manipulation.
Pick one.
>No conceptual manipulation.
Pick one.
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shush let me rant about the unfairness in peace!
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anyways he used to have it
and he still should have it! it was just very weak!
and he still should have it! it was just very weak!
- remembers when he made bill 2-C temporarily*
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At best The Seven Deadly Sins are type 4 concepts.
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I still feel that they should count for that despite being really weak
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If he is 4-D and fighting agais 4-D then yes it should all work via Higher-Dimensional ExistenceShadowWarrior1999 said:
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He would still need proof of his hax working on that level.
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3D beings affecting other 3Ds with hax is far, far more common than 4Ds affecting other 4Ds with hax.
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Except he's stated to be a threat to the multiverse, meaning he's affecting a space-time continuum and other fourth dimensional constructs. I'm not saying Hax = AP, but shouldn't being able to affect fourth dimensional constructs with power logically mean that you should be able to affect higher dimensional beings with hax?ShadowWarrior1999 said:
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Affecting 4D constructs with power is just AP.
That doesn't mean the hax works on that level.
I can break 3D objects with my fists but I can't erase a 3D object like how I can erase a 2D drawing on a paper.
That doesn't mean the hax works on that level.
I can break 3D objects with my fists but I can't erase a 3D object like how I can erase a 2D drawing on a paper.
Literally any Bill discussions right now get really heated...
Take Mxy and Annoying Dog as examples as some of their haxes aren't 5-D. The same goes with Bill here.
If he fought 4-Ds then it should work.
If he never fought 4-Ds then no
Take Mxy and Annoying Dog as examples as some of their haxes aren't 5-D. The same goes with Bill here.
If he fought 4-Ds then it should work.
If he never fought 4-Ds then no
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"I can break 3D objects with my fists but I can't erase a 3D object like how I can erase a 2D drawing on a paper." Striking Strength =/= AP though
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Striking strength usually scales to AP.
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Except Bill isn't destroying the multiverse via punching, he's doing it via power.
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That's still AP and not hax.
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Except your analogy is that "Well, I can break 3D objects with my fist, but I still can't erase 3D beings even though I can erase 2D beings" First of all, you're technically erasing 3D beings when you're erasing a stick figure with an eraser. Second of all, Striking Strength isn't the same as AP.
Why wouldn't someone being able to affect fourth dimensional constructs with power not be able to affect fourth dimensional beings with their haxes?
Why wouldn't someone being able to affect fourth dimensional constructs with power not be able to affect fourth dimensional beings with their haxes?
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https://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Multiverse_Destruction
It's inherently a sub-branch of Multiversal Manipulation
https://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Multiversal_Manipulation
Given that Bill's not doing this by punching, we know that it's Multiversal Manipulation, aka a hax.
It's inherently a sub-branch of Multiversal Manipulation
https://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Multiversal_Manipulation
Given that Bill's not doing this by punching, we know that it's Multiversal Manipulation, aka a hax.
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just imagine bill just puching the multiverse
That just means he can bust the multiverse on that level. Nothing implies he has 4-D haxes.Bill With A Mouth Solos said:
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^Bill With A Mouth Solos said:
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We don't use Powerlisting abilities for a Tier feat. We used the Tiering SystemBill With A Mouth Solos said:
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He's implying that Bill did his feat via that ability, not that he's 2-A for having it.
He's implying that Bill did his feat via that ability, not that he's 2-A for having it.
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And anyway, I heavily disagree with Bill's tier. Based on his stats, he gets bodied by Asriel, freaking Asriel. I think this wiki has a far more accurate tiering for Bill: https://characterrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Bill_Cipher_(Gravity_Falls)
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Personally i feel this is the best but alas too speculative
https://joke-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Bill_Cipher
but on track i will get more abilities when i look for them
https://joke-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Bill_Cipher
but on track i will get more abilities when i look for them
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bumpity bump
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Joke Battle's powers and abilities are from CRW's page.Totallynotchewbacca said:
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