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Wouldn't Leon scale directly to the 5x by being stronger than Raihan? (Raihan's Base Duraludon could keep up with a Dynamaxed Kommo-o and defeated all of Oleana's Pokémon when they were Dynamaxed)Darn. Still we shouldn't scale him directly to 5x as he still used a super effective move and thus should scale notably above 2x, he did take hits from g-max pikachu.
I ain't sureWouldn't Leon scale directly to the 5x by being stronger than Raihan? (Raihan's Base Duraludon could keep up with a Dynamaxed Kommo-o and defeated all of Oleana's Pokémon when they were Dynamaxed)
That's Khoury's Gible, which was wild at the time.Class K for Stage 2 and Legendaries (Due of Ash's Gible, who is consistently shown at such level
Gigantamax is strictly superior to Dynamax. We can't apply the 5x multiplier to Dynamax, so the answer is no. In addition, with Oleana's Pokemon, we can't assume that Duraludon was in its base form when it defeated them.Wouldn't Leon scale directly to the 5x by being stronger than Raihan? (Raihan's Base Duraludon could keep up with a Dynamaxed Kommo-o and defeated all of Oleana's Pokémon when they were Dynamaxed)
Then is outlier. ****.That's Khoury's Gible, which was wild at the time.
I think you could scale final stages to Happiny's lake lifting feat.So we have for LS:
I'm a bit disappointed but that's what it is.
- Baby: At least Peak Human
- Base: Class 25
- Stage 1: At least Class 25
- Stage 2: Class 100 (Heracross and Snornal)
- Machamp and Grimmsnarl: Class T
- Mega, Gigantamax and Legendaries: At least Class T
Oh, I didn't thought on how use that feat. I completely agree on use it for Final stages.
Tbh, if they didn't counter the new points, I guess that it's good to go. Many CRT went like this.i would personally scale her to 1st stages (or mid evos or whatever you call it) but whatever
anyways COULD ANYONE PLEASE PING THE REST OF THE MODS SO THEY CAN GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS ON MAGNITUDE 10 AP?
They never saw the new points bro. We gotta call em so they can give their opinion otherwise this might get retconned. They saw G-maxes becoming 15gt, not G-maxes becoming 75gtTbh, if they didn't counter the new points, I guess that it's good to go. Many CRT went like this.
aight, ask someone else as well, ill request GyroClass T calc got accepted and asked @KieranH10 to come here.
I'll try to contact him again.actually now that i think about it, should we call Kukui? i linked the thread in the comments but idk if he saw it
I've already answered why it should be used:I'm still unsure about using Magnitude in general as justification for AP. As has been said, stage 1 Pokemon can also use that and potentially get Magnitude 10. But the calculations are fine so I can agree with that at least.
What about Magnitude 10?I was asked to respond here and I don’t know what else to say other than giving my agreement.
In AP:What is the scaling everyone is settling on?
In LS:Alright, here's my full opinion on how I believe things should be for AP scaling:
Final evolutions: 15.08 gigatons (6-C)
Mega Evolutions/Marowak with Bone: 30.16 gigatons (6-C)
Leon's Charizard: At least 30.16 gigatons (At least 6-C)
Gigantamaxes: 75.4 gigatons (6-C+)
Leon's G-Max Charizard: 150.8 gigatons (High 6-C)
This is all assuming that Magnitude is accepted. If not, I think it should look like this:
Final evolutions: 3.1 gigatons (High 7-A+)
Mega Evolutions/Marowak with Bone: 6.2 gigatons (6-C)
Leon's Charizard: At least 6.2 gigatons (At least 6-C)
Gigantamaxes: 15.5 gigatons (6-C)
Leon's G-Max Charizard: 31 gigatons (6-C)
I made this calc for Pokemon lifting strength. Yet to be accepted, but it could potentially make all Pokemon that learn Strength (HM) Class K.So, other than this we have also to:
- Update the Lifting Strenght to the following:
- Peak Human for Baby (Upscaling from Chuck)
- Class 25 for Base (Coz Mantyke)
- Class 25 for Stage 1 via upscaling (Class 50 feats are non-existent, but I can get more if I calc this)
- Class K for Stage 2 and Legendaries (Due of Ash's Gible, who is consistently shown at such level)
Why not just use the calcs that we have though? The calcs support High 7-A+ from Magnitude 9 earthquakes, it's not a big leap to assume they can cause Magnitude 10 earthquakes but it's a leap nonetheless.It's learned at low levels from low stages. However, since Team Rocket's Piloswine and Tyranitar feats are actually pretty close to the 10, I don't think it's an immense screech to make the 10 usable, since this time is actually supported.
If there are no further need to discuss, I say it good to apply. Nothing I can tell immediately seems out of place.In AP:
In LS:
Edit: Speed for Stage 1 will be just "At least Massively Hypersonic+", the Sub-Rel+ was based on a joke calc which was seriously applied. Agreed on the FTL final stages thread.
I dunno about Magnitude 10. If its still in discussion, you could make a thread dedicated to it while applying the things accepted.What about Magnitude 10?
Uhm, no. This is about AP, we can talk about it here.I dunno about Magnitude 10. If its still in discussion, you could make a thread dedicated to it while applying the things accepted.
They can canonically use it. Discarding it as they never did is nonsense.Why not just use the calcs that we have though? The calcs support High 7-A+ from Magnitude 9 earthquakes, it's not a big leap to assume they can cause Magnitude 10 earthquakes but it's a leap nonetheless