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Best Marksmen on VS Battle Wiki

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So I'm just gonna go ahead and make this before anyone else does. Here's the best swordsmen thread and the best martial artists thread.

Anyways, rules are that they have to use a gun of some kind, aka, no finger guns. Any shape or type works. Laser guns and paint guns are allowed for the time being. The character in question should preferably mainly use guns, but its fine if they also use other weapons, as long as guns make frequent use. Please also preferably give some feats, experience, skill, accuracy, and just general reasoning as to why they should be on this list. Link profiles if you can please.

THIS IS NOT A RANKING. JUST A LIST.

 
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List some of Bayo's feats that have to do with sheer skill? (Not feats that invole Witch-Time fuckery or speed based feats.) I'm like 99% Vash has the better accuracy feats.


Don't know what the **** a Vindicar Assassin is, and The Winter Solider is definitely worthy of being here but he's a far cry from being the best.
 
Don't know what the **** a Vindicar Assassin is, and The Winter Solider is definitely worthy of being here but he's a far cry from being the best.

Sniping people from the moon
 
Not bayo herself, but her Mother whom she's comparable to did this.

There's witch time stuff at the end, but that still doesn't change the fact that she perfectly lined up stacks of bullets on multiple thin staffs with a shotgun. Weekly probs has more than I do though.
 

Sniping people from the moon
Funny since Vash does that but instead he's on No-Man's land which is full of thick ass clouds and sniped nigh invisible string from outer space and sniped Knives 3 times instantly from the earth while Knives was in deep space. But even that is pretty much fodder when taking his other feats into consideration.
Will compile them, what does Vash have?
A **** ton of upscaling from the entire verse and stellar feats.
 
Not bayo herself, but her Mother whom she's comparable to did this.
This is pretty low tier, Bayo has much better feats. Also her opponents (Her mom just Bayo.) aren't skilled in the slightest, Vash benefits from dealing with opponent who use prep time and use complex strategies.
There's witch time stuff at the end, but that still doesn't change the fact that she perfectly lined up stacks of bullets on multiple thin staffs with a shotgun. Weekly probs has more than I do though.
Again, this also directly involves the usage of Witch-Time which is something I'm not gonna argue. Temporal hax is just that, hax and not a feat of skill. Stacking bullets that are moving slowly isn't exactly an impressive feat either. Pretty sure we're also arguing on marksmanship and nothing else.
 
This is pretty low tier, Bayo has much better feats. Also her opponents (Her mom just Bayo.) aren't skilled in the slightest, Vash benefits from dealing with opponent who use prep time and use complex strategies.
Bayo's main rival in both games whom she's equal to each have over 600 years of daily combat experience. I don't know much about Vash but saying all of her opponents are unskilled is just blatantly untrue. She's also fought and dominated opponents with straight up billions of years of experience.
Again, this also directly involves the usage of Witch-Time which is something I'm not gonna argue. Temporal hax is just that, hax and not a feat of skill. Stacking bullets that are moving slowly isn't exactly an impressive feat either. Pretty sure we're also arguing on marksmanship and nothing else.
The bullets are moving at speeds proportional to herself. The only thing that's slowed down here are her targets. Arguing that combining your skills and weaponry with your own powers sounds quite stupid to me. Marksmanship in combination with powers is still marksmanship lol.

Anyways, this thread isn't ranking them, just listing them. I really don't care about who's better between Vash and Bayo.
 
Archer (Billy the Kid)

Shooting: This skill shows an extreme degree of arms mastery, especially with Fire Arms. Quick Draws and Trick Shots are his specialties. At rank A++, he's a "once-in-a-century genius".

Quick Draw: Specialisation of Billy's shooting techniques. He can see his opponent draw or start to attack, draw himself and always have time to spare.
 
Bayo's main rival in both games whom she's equal to each have over 600 years of daily combat experience. I don't know much about Vash but saying all of her opponents are unskilled is just blatantly untrue. She's also fought and dominated opponents with straight up billions of years of experience.
Well first things first, I never said all of her opponents aren't skilled so I'd really appreciate it if you didn't put those words in my mouth. Secondly I was pretty cleary talking about the angels and demons she fights.
The bullets are moving at speeds proportional to herself. The only thing that's slowed down here are her targets. Arguing that combining your skills and weaponry with your own powers sounds quite stupid to me. Marksmanship in combination with powers is still marksmanship lol.
The bullets were frozen in place and then brought back to speed, unless they pick up speed instantaneously then the momentum would be lowered. Do you have scans of this particular feat? And not really, your still using your powers to benefit your own skill set.
Anyways, this thread isn't ranking them, just listing them. I really don't care about who's better between Vash and Bayo.
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The bullets were frozen in place and then brought back to speed, unless they pick up speed instantaneously then the momentum would be lowered.
You can visually see that the bullets are fired at normal speed and then freeze as they stacked as odd as that is. The Angels were blown up by the bullets after witch time ended.
Do you have scans of this particular feat? And not really, your still using your powers to benefit your own skill set.
The scan is the video I sent. I dunno what else to say. I also don't see how using your powers in combination with your weaponry invalidates your skill.

Regardless, I'm not gonna keep trying to argue this anymore as its starting to clog up the thread and I can already tell this is gonna be a back and forth circle (as are most arguments on this site).
 
Roland Deschain and Rex Marksley.

There are some characters that I'd nominate as contenders but they don't have profiles here and I've not yet posted enough material that I'd be safe to debate with them. Death from East of West is one. A lot of 40k characters can fit here, tbh.

On the minor scale of things, but still without profile, I'd nominate Tex Willer, but I still haven't updated the profile with good feats, and he's impressive on a human-ish level, not really comparable to most abnormal dudes.
 
Time is still, those spears are barley moving. And going by your own logic this particular feat wouldn't be impressive due to the bullets moving at a normal pace while the spears are nigh stagnant.


Also do Bayo vs Dante first and winner gets Vash.
 
Again, this also directly involves the usage of Witch-Time which is something I'm not gonna argue. Temporal hax is just that, hax and not a feat of skill. Stacking bullets that are moving slowly isn't exactly an impressive feat either. Pretty sure we're also arguing on marksmanship and nothing else.
Not sure what you mean, Witch Time doesnt affct her bullets, and rosa is one of the most skilled people in the entire verse
 
Read above Weekly. Also Rosa isn't as skilled as Bayo, as far as I'm concerned she can be used as a form of upscaling for Bayo but there's no point in arguing Rosa here.
 
Pretty sure Fate as Archer's that are canonically more skilled than Billy although Billy has the most drip so **** Arjuna and the other Archers.



Also Vash has somehow managed to snipe black-holes's into a different dimension while said black-hole was exploding.
 
Read above Weekly. Also Rosa isn't as skilled as Bayo, as far as I'm concerned she can be used as a form of upscaling for Bayo but there's no point in arguing Rosa here.
I did, it has no bearing on Rosa's feat as her weapons arent affected by Witch time. And yeah Bayo upscales from Rosa
Also Vash has somehow managed to snipe black-holes's into a different dimension while said black-hole was exploding.
Bayo has feats of sniping people in other dimensions without even bothering to look at them
A **** ton of upscaling from the entire verse and stellar feats.
Such as? And what do you mean stellar feats?
 
I just find it funny that as a servant Billy is just a dude with a gun but he’s so skilled that he literally turned his skill with a gun into his NP that can slow down time.
 
I did, it has no bearing on Rosa's feat as her weapons arent affected by Witch time. And yeah Bayo upscales from Rosa
You evidently didn't otherwise you'd be aware that I wasn't arguing on her weapons being affected. Her target was affected making it nigh stationary, in return making it easier to hit as opposed to said target moving. It's definitely a good feat but it doesn't really compare to what Vash or Bayo themselves are capable of.
Bayo has feats of sniping people in other dimensions without even bothering to look at them.
Vash sniped a black-Hole into a separate dimension with its own time-space in a short time-frame while making more calculations than someone who's spent 200+ years doing nothing but calculations (Literally nothing but calculations for said 200 years.) in order to figure out how she can get rid of it. Vash outdid that in a short time-frame. Vash also has feats of blind fighting as well, matter of fact his marksmanship is better when he isn't using his eyesight.
Such as? And what do you mean stellar feats?
Gimme some time to gather everything, Vash comes from a manga that's a lot longer than the Bayonetta games and the scans are pretty hard to find but I have a way around that part. Both figuratively and metaphorically speaking, has feats of nailing shit from across interstellar distances and nailing objects that are smaller than infintesimally.


Vash stomps Bayo via having enough sauce to smash the witch
 
I'd still like to see what actual skill feats he has or scales to while i post all of Bayo's insane feats
Take a lil look at his respect thread, it doesn't list all of his feats and doesn't have his better feats but it'll give you a good basic understanding. Again this is someone who can nail shit with bullets that are the smaller than Infinitesimal and smaller than Planck length which is something I'm pretty sure Bayonetta isn't capable of doing.
 
I think it's just listing the most skilled, the OP did say it wasn't ranked afterwards so that pretty much insinuates that it isn't a fight for the most skilled.

Still Vash wins via putting the moves on Bayo.
 
Hmmm... that’s unfortunate, I actually wanted to see how Nozomi stacks up once comparing, since she canonically goes through the entire story using a gun, in a series against people like Yoshitsune, Futsunushi, Kali, Atvaka, Asura, and True YHVH with nothing more than a rifle.
 
List some of Bayo's feats that have to do with sheer skill? (Not feats that invole Witch-Time fuckery or speed based feats.) I'm like 99% Vash has the better accuracy feats.
Of note, the first few feats were performed with canonically inferior nonmagical guns that are weaker and less accurate than Scarborough Fair or Love is Blue, and all of Bayonetta's marksman feats are performed with little to no direct aiming involved due to her fighting style.

Shooting enemies approaching from multiple different a awkward angles simultaneously without looking at them

Doing so again while shooting guns with her feet

Accurately dual wielding and landing headshots while tumbling through the air

Jeanne, who Bayo canonically scales vastly above in marksmanship, shooting enemies approaching from multiple different a awkward angles simultaneously without looking at them including shooting with her feet

Breakdance gunfighting with feet guns and shooting Jeanne's bullets out of the air

Showing off

Headshotting a moving target with Cereza's head inches away from it

Casually bullseye hitting the spout of a fountain from a distance without even looking at it and firing over her shoulder

Headshotting Balder with a bullet made of lipstick after curving said bullet through a field of debris

Able to draw a bead on Balder spamming timestop

Accurate shooting awkward angles while on the back of a pissed off centaur into accurate shooting at awkward angles and shooting with her feet while ballet dancing (And done with normal nonmagical handguns to boot)

Simultaneously killing an angel and shooting a hole through the head of the character on Loki's throwing card without him noticing all with a single bullet

Shooting an angel in the face without looking at it

Freeing Loki from a pile of rubble by shooting it to pieces without hitting him in the center of it

Rosa, who Bayo scales far above in terms of marksmanship, stacking bullets on the weapons of angels to redirect them to they impale of cut the angels in half

Casually shooting down an army of angels and demons while controlling a fighter jet with her feet
 
Bullseye is the textbook example of uncanny marksman. I know too little of him in order to give a detailed and proper description, but his profile already gives many good examples and there are several respect threads about him.
 
V1 - Can flip a coin several meters into the air then shoot it in such a way that both halves split and hit two different enemies- not anywhere, mind you, but it's always gonna hit their weak points, if those enemies have a weak point. And this isn't a one-time thing, it's a move you're meant to spam in gameplay. Not only that, but when he fights an opponent with a similar moveset, he can use THEIR coins to pull off the same trick (the opponent can do the same to him, by the way)

Revolver Ocelot - A ridicolously good marksman who specializes in ricocheting his bullets on walls even multiple times to his his targets. He's done way too much for me to describe rapidly, here's a respect thread. Keep in mind, he grows in skill with age, so the feats where he looks a bit young (this design) are done when he's the most inexperienced and less skilled. Big Boss has beaten him in gunfights, and while I struggle to say he's superior, he's definitely comparable.
 
Of note, the first few feats were performed with canonically inferior nonmagical guns that are weaker and less accurate than Scarborough Fair or Love is Blue, and all of Bayonetta's marksman feats are performed with little to no direct aiming involved due to her fighting style.
Well first things first, the weapon Vash is using doesn't really matter. The accuracy of the weapon could be absolutely garbage, to the point where even a plastic toy gun made for a child is lethal in the hands of Vash. He "killed" three bandits 2x over before they could even draw their own weapons.
That's hardly what I'd call "awkward angles" the Angel's are rushing her from several but linear directions, up, down, left and right. Vash can shoot down several Vodka bottles inches away from ssomeon's head while drunk to the point where he can't even stand properly.
Again these aren't awkward angels, they're behind her and that's where she fires, and they aren't that far from her either so hitting them wouldn't be much of an issue. Vash can intercept and parry an attack from Knive's Million's who spawned his attack directly underneath Vash, and attacked him omnidirectionallly at nigh point blank range and Vash shot down every single one without them touching him. Knive's also attacked him with Angel Wing's which have Instinctive Reactions which Vash casually yeeted.
If We're going the headshot route Vash can nail a headshot on a singular target while from buildings away and whilst under heavy gunfire. The person who he just sniped wasn't any regular fodder, he's apart of the Gun-Ho-Gun's who are trained to notice attack patterns, predict attacks and observe enemy weaknesses. The opponent also had information on Vash as does every member of this group. Vash also while falling from a building was able to hit himself, Wolfwood and Miley so he could transport them safely.
Wolfwood, who Vash canonically scales vastly above is capable of identical feats. Such as when he fought Gray the Nine Lives, while free falling in a tight cramped space-ship was able to accurately shoot off Gray's hand. Gray is also apart of the Gun-Ho-Gun's giving him Prediction and such and Gray isn't one opponent but multiple each individually controlling apart of the beast. Wolfwood being the same character who can fight and fire at Midvalley despite Midvalley bursting his eardrums and making him go blind. Midvalley is a higher rank in the Gun-Ho-Gun's than Gray, making him vastly more skilled than Gray.
Vash is also pretty skilled in the art of break dancing such as when he kicked a canon to push himself back to return fire at the canon to make it hit the opponent's teammate. Or when he was bocuning off pieces of rubble on a moving train, and with a bullet wound was able to casually beat Brilliant Dynamites Neon.
Vash does the same thing but to a greater degree such as when he saved citizens from a group of 60 terrorists without killing any of them.
She was litererally standing pretty still there, she wasn't moving around all freely. But Vash is capable of the same type of feat such as when he when he dropped his gun, crouched and fired without hitting the hostage despite his shots being aimed at non vitals like the shoulder where the Hostage's head was near by. Note Vash could have gotten a headshot effortlessly but didn't since he refuses to kill.
Vash can shoot thousands of rounds through the same bullet hole and never miss and his aim gets better when he isn't relying on his eyesight.
The bullet hit that final piece of debris and I don't see what's so skilled about a homing round. Vash scales above similar feats, like Livio and his Double Fang which can shoot from all possible directions at once.
Draw a bead? What do you mean?
She's right next to the opponent's that she's firing at, her accuracy is evidently going to be greater the closer she is to something. Vash can fire off perfectly fire rounds while on a steam powered train that isn't on tracks, while also being hijacked.
Already posted the feat above, but Vash can fire thousands of rounds into the same bullet hole while targeting non vitals organs and never miss.
More firing without looking, neato but Vash takes that a step and beyond via not even needing to rely on his eyesight and scaling above those who can fight while blind.
Wolfwood Did the same in Badlands Rumble but I don't have access to the feat in this particular moment and only used one gun while also fending off thugs.
....You really just went full blown incoherent mode there, I genuinely can't understand what your trying to say there. Maybe edit that comment a bit better so that way people can actually understand? Will come back to this.
Fighter jet gun's aren't made for pin-point accuracy, it's more of a spray and pray and she isn't getting headshots there.
 
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