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Best blondes boss battle Cynthia vs Tsunade

Milotic is nothing new for Tsunase with it's healing, she literally taught Sakura everything she knows and Sakura was able to kill someone with healing factor comparable to Naruto's by forcing his Cells to heal so fast that they literally killed themselves. Tsunade could just do the same thing if she couldn't One-Shot it for whatever strange reason. As it stands, she One-Shots everything on the field with Spiritomb being the only real issue and even then isn't impossible for her to get past. There's still Tsunade summoning Katsuyu who scales to Gamabunta who could literally tear Shukaku's arm off.
 
Milotic is nothing new for Tsunase with it's healing, she literally taught Sakura everything she knows and Sakura was able to kill someone with healing factor comparable to Naruto's by forcing his Cells to heal so fast that they literally killed themselves. Tsunade could just do the same thing if she couldn't One-Shot it for whatever strange reason. As it stands, she One-Shots everything on the field with Spiritomb being the only real issue and even then isn't impossible for her to get past. There's still Tsunade summoning Katsuyu who scales to Gamabunta who could literally tear Shukaku's arm off.
How is she one shooting them when they have clear range advantages
 
What's the range on tsunades fear Manipulation? I put them in an arena so it still could be a factor on Cynthia if it reaches across the entire battlefield. Typically trainers are far away enough to not get caught in the explosions and such from battles.
 
Madara’s fire upscales them, as he’s stronger than them. And okay, it wouldn’t exactly kill her, when she can just jump and slam her heels down.


Madara and Obito should likely have identical potency as they fired off their strongest fire-attack in tandem and they were identical in size and speed.

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Madara and Obito should likely have identical potency as they fired off their strongest fire-attack in tandem and they were identical in size and speed.

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They scale in force, not heat energy. Madara would definitely upscale from Sasuke vaporising the land since thats a basic Fireball technique, but I doubt his heat upscales from anything. Its possible to be a stronger ninja but have weaker hax
 
They scale in force, not heat energy. Madara would definitely upscale from Sasuke vaporising the land since thats a basic Fireball technique, but I doubt his heat upscales from anything. Its possible to be a stronger ninja but have weaker hax
Madara having weaker hax is absolutely possible, (especially since feat wise then Madara and Obito are basically identical in power ATP). However you also have this statement from Choji regarding his fire:

Seeing as "we'd" in this scenario probably refers to the entire shinobi alliance (as that's everyone Naruto gave chakra to). Then Madara and Obito being implied to burn half the shinobi alliance each most likely scales far above Obito's Uchiha Flame Formation. (It's difficult to assess how much of this is AP and how much is heat-energy, however if we take Choji's statement at face value then it's likely both)

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Madara having weaker hax is absolutely possible, (especially since feat wise then Madara and Obito are basically identical in power ATP). However you also have this statement from Choji regarding his fire:

Seeing as "we'd" in this scenario probably refers to the entire shinobi alliance (as that's everyone Naruto gave chakra to). Then Madara and Obito being implied to burn half the shinobi alliance each most likely scales far above Obito's Uchiha Flame Formation. (It's difficult to assess how much of this is AP and how much is heat-energy, however if we take Choji's statement at face value then it's likely both)

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Thats a good feat
 
It's difficult to see Cynthia getting around Tsunade's 100 Healings as her entire fighting style essentially just revolves around tanking hits and 1-shotting. And taking Tsunade's feats against Madara into consideration then we know that even extremely severe attacks get healed up with relative ease. So unless Cynthia has a way to completely 1-shot Tsunade then i don't really see a very potent win-con in her favour.

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Her ability to manipulate souls was never shown but orochimaru did think she could do it.
Doesn't seem like a combat ability however.
It's done with her Medical Ninjutsu, which she can use offensively.
Actually, Tsunade was supposed to get Non-Physical Interaction in the last souls related Naruto CRT, but I think it was forgotten.
 
Spiritomb has hundreds of souls tho, and she can't kill them all whithout succumbing, especially with Pressure.
 
Considering i don't see possession resistance on Tsundae's profile, touching spiritomb once would already be enough to deal with her since you get fully possessed within minutes
 
Also, Lucario, Spiritomb, and Roserade have psychic attacks. Plus, that Sitrus Berry makes Garchomp resilient.
 
Also, Lucario, Spiritomb, and Roserade have psychic attacks. Plus, that Sitrus Berry makes Garchomp resilient.
Not sure what tier the psychic attacks can lift. Psychic tends to be seen as just throwing the opponent around in the anime. So tsunade could just power through them.
 
Not sure what tier the psychic attacks can lift. Psychic tends to be seen as just throwing the opponent around in the anime. So tsunade could just power through them.
i mean i am most likely going to upgrade a good chunk of psychics to class G soon
But anyways the psychic attack is a move that strikes the opponent with a wave of psychic energy and lifts them in the air before doing so. That is the official description of the move. They don't really use it to pin anyone down so LS isn't really relevant here. Like you ain't using LS in the air when you have nothing to push up from.
 
Extrassensory does "The user attacks with an odd, unseeable power. This may also make the target flinch." The chance of fliching is low but not 0. Basically the attack just strikes the opponent all of a sudden just like every psychic move
 
There's also Milotic with aqua ring and mirror cote, the former being a move that constantly heals it and the latter being a move that reflects non-physical attacks back at the opponent with two times the power.

Lucario can predict Tsundae's attack by reading her aura

There's also the fact that Cynthia's pokemon have multiple AOE moves such as as surf, muddy water, earthquake and silver wind which are attacks that combined would affect ground and air at the same time...
Oh and also, silver wind has a 1/10 chance of boosting every stat of the pokemon so within a moment Spiritomb can become 1.5x stronger, faster, durable.

Overall i feel like Tsundae is simply outnumbered here and her sould technique can be countered with spiritomb who would possess her on contact.
Voting for Cynthia
 
Would Spiritomb even have time to use Possesion? It was implied that Tsunade was gonna kill Orochimaru outright with Medical Ninjutsu on contact.


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Would Spiritomb even have time to use Possesion? It was implied that Tsunade was gonna kill Orochimaru outright with Medical Ninjutsu on contact.


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1. Spiritomb has 108 souls so it has limited resistance to soul manipulation
2. Spiritomb's possession is on contact. It took Ash one touch to get possessed and it took barely a minute or two for him to succumb to the spirit completely with him being partially controlled nearly instantly.
 
Here's the scene


Ash touches spiritomb's...tomb...thing, and gets possessed by one of the spirits. He later begins attacking his close friend, thus proving that the possession is pretty darn strong
 
Also if one spirit could possess ash to the extent of trying to harm/indirectly kill his friend imagine what would happen if multiple spirits joined the party
 
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