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Hal’s Ring only kills opponents if he wills it to do so. Since Hal isn’t out for blood here, he’s only going to use enough power to KO Ben.
And we know the failsafe doesn’t protect Ben from knockout.
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Ben 10 vs Green Lantern REMATCH (4-8-1)
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And we know the failsafe doesn’t protect Ben from knockout.
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And the ring only allows lethal force under special circumstances. It's unlikely Ben would fall under one of those circumstances.
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Will the ring be able to distinguish the energy Omnitrix has and the Alien Ben transformed into? For instance, Omnitrix would have atleast 1 million aliens inside of its pocket dimension which includes waybig.
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Why would that matter. The ring would obviously recognize Ben as a living target.
And doesn't Ben just revert back to human form everytime he gets KO-ed
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why would omnitrix having multi+ dura interfere with the ring analysis
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Why would Dura affect information analysis?
The Omnitrix's profile only lists the Omnitrix with Unknown durability
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Omnitrix has around millions of beings inside itself+ it's own omnienergy
Don't ring attacks based off the guy infront analysis? How else it would know what to do? If the guy infront wearing a peace of technology that has multi+ dura that should tells me that I gotta use energy around that to atleast even affect him.
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Information analysis has nothing to do with durability.
Doesn't the Omnitrix only store DNA. That doesn't correlate to durability.
Plus Hal wouldn't be aiming to destroy the Omnitrix first, but rather defeating whoever's in front of him
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Omnitrix has a entire Universe inside of it and alot of omnienergy a volcano and all. Refer to Destroy all Aliens- and UA. They live as real stuff inside it.
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It's literally is. How else he would know if he gotta attack with high 5-A or 10-B?
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If the Ring can scan targets on a molecular level and their DNA, it will be able to differentiate Ben from the piece of technology he’s wearing.
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Scanning is passive? Also wouldn't the point be same that he gotta attack someone wearing multi+ peace.
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Hal is obviously gonna know that the alien itself isn't the same as the watch.
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Again. Hal knows nothing about Ben and watch. It's his will + ring. He willed to knock out ben and ring went for it in it's own way, unless Hal already knows everything about Ben from head to toe.
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Dude. Hal should obviously be able to differentiate that Ben and the watch are two separate things just by looking at him. It's not rocket science to figure that out.
To Hal, the watch would be just a weapon like a guy and a gun.
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He will thanks to the ring’s scanning.
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Feedback can absorb mana, so yes, it can do that. I'm not sure that he will be able to absorb it back, because at that moment he will be exhausted, and besides, Feedback can immediately redirect this energy into himself. These are not quite ordinary energy manipulations, because the mana in Ben 10 is the multidimensional energy of the universe and his Hax works at about the same level, which is higher than that of the Green Lantern
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Uhhh... Is knocking out? Restraining? Or scanning is his first move? It's seems to be random. Also;
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Omnitrix is resistant to such manipulations because Malware was unable to harm Omnitrix and its genetic code.
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The Omnitrix has never shown resistance to Information Analysis.
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Hal would figure that his chains and energy attacks are being absorbed and then go for another option.
That's literally his standard tactic.
No lol. Why would someone attack their opponent and not the opponent themselves.
Like by that logic, can you imagine being in a gun fight and the thing you try to shoot is the opponent's gun rather than the opponent. That's just illogical.
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I am not sure if he will be able to do this, since the Feedback will already absorb his life energy
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As @Maverick_Zero_X just said, it's on ring.
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watch vs ring 
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Outside of being able to scan Ben’s DNA to determine he’s not the watch, Emirp’s point is also correct:
Hal has eyes and can see Ben isn’t the Omnitrix.
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Ben has millions of DNA and again so scanning will only lead to problem. Hal can see that Ben is human doesn't mean ring will release tier 10 energy because if will then it's same. So either give control to Hal or his ring working on his "will". Not to mention all Aliens has Omnitrix on chest making it look more of their body part than watch.
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Hal doesn't need to scan the DNA tho
he can just scan the watch
he can just scan the watch
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Also why would Hal be attacking human Ben. Considering Master Control is being used, Ben is just gonna switch to one of his brute force aliens as a starting move, as he can supposedly do that instantly.
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In my opinion, this version of Ben loves Feedback more than the rest of the aliens. Therefore, he can turn into him right away
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Yeah point was never that but how Hal would know how strong Ben or his Aliens is? He'll will and let the ring do it. It's ring stuff that matters after that. Ben Omnitrix has alot of stuff that can purely cause interference or misunderstanding. Including millions of DNA to valcone to Universe to multi+ dura + it's on his chest so hal wouldn't know the hell. I highly doubt without some prior knowledge, rings "ability to act on Hal will" can be precise and flawless af to the point of acting as omniscient.
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What? It's not that deep. The ring would obviously recognize the alien itself and whatever is within the watch as separate.
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Agree to disagree then. I mean, i wouldn't doubt if Hall has some next level of Homing Attack which includes information analysis+ precision + target's body distinction or god knows whatever this is which allows him to distinguish armours, energy, potency, being and all if it's like that. Thats quite crazy.
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What... None of that has anything to do with my point?
All I'm saying is that the ring would obviously differentiate between the alien Ben is using rn and whatever id in the Omnitrix. It's not that deep.
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‘Xcuse me? Pocket dimension? Does Primus ring a bell to you?
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I'm referring to ring being so precise. But again, i may be overthinking or something else which i highly doubt I'm since the precision is too accurate for being too casual. So at the end of the day, I don't think I'll be convinced with this point, what matters is what majority finds convincing so you won't have to worry about that from what the looks of it. So Agree to disagree.
Biggest retcon ever. It shakes me up.
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