- 10,398
- 4,564
You think it’s enough for an upscale to 6-C? Also are Omni mid tiers not equal to regular top tiers?
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The High 7-A is 5.966666666666667 gigatons. That’s less than 1% away from 6-C. We got some beefy ass Aliens.You think it’s enough for an upscale to 6-C? Also are Omni mid tiers not equal to regular top tiers?
Damn. Nvm.Why wouldn't cannonbolt be 6-C when he tanked their merged attack in his base form? I mentioned the AP on my blog.
Total = 8.96 Gigatons
Per Weatherhead = 2.96 Gigatons
Per Weatherhead = 2.98 Gigatons minor correctionDamn. Nvm.
"They can dive from the stratosphere damaged free"How durable is Cannonbolt compared to the other aliens?
Beautiful.My proposal of scaling Ben’s aliens
Low tiers: XLR8, Heatblast, Wildvine, ... scale to 2.98 Gigatons (High 7-A+) for being on par with the individual weatherheads.
Mid tiers: Diamondhead, Four Arms, Shock Rock, Cannonbolt, Omni-XLR8, Omni-Heatblast, Omni-Wildvine, ... scale to 8.96 Gigatons (6-C) for being on par with the fused weatherheads.
Top tiers: Omni-Diamondhead, Omni-Four Arms, Omni-Shock Rock, Omni-Cannonbolt scale to 26.88 Gigatons (6-C) for having a similar increase in AP (times 3) as the low tiers had to become mid tiers via going Omni.
The exact scaling of everyone else in the verse to these aliens should be looked at though since several people fight with low-tiers, mid-tiers and even top-tiers (depending on their equipment at the time mostly) and we need to figure out what the most consistent rating is to place all these characters at (depending on their equipment, so multiple keys for them might be in order).
Not really since Greenshifters scaling is based off of Heatblast poor performance against classic continuity vilgax and he wanted to cross scale Ben 10 Reboot and Classic due to alternate time lines ben showing up in the upcoming movie on 11th April which in itself is wrong because there is zero creator statement that suggest that both takes place in the same verse.Greenshifter's suggestions seem fine to myself.
My proposal of scaling Ben’s aliens
Low tiers: XLR8, Heatblast, Wildvine, ... scale to 2.98 Gigatons (High 7-A+) for being on par with the individual weatherheads.
Mid tiers: Diamondhead, Four Arms, Shock Rock, Cannonbolt, Omni-XLR8, Omni-Heatblast, Omni-Wildvine, ... scale to 8.96 Gigatons (6-C) for being on par with the fused weatherheads.
Top tiers: Omni-Diamondhead, Omni-Four Arms, Omni-Shock Rock, Omni-Cannonbolt scale to 26.88 Gigatons (6-C) for having a similar increase in AP (times 3) as the low tiers had to become mid tiers via going Omni.
The exact scaling of everyone else in the verse to these aliens should be looked at though since several people fight with low-tiers, mid-tiers and even top-tiers (depending on their equipment at the time mostly) and we need to figure out what the most consistent rating is to place all these characters at (depending on their equipment, so multiple keys for them might be in order).
well this scaling is based off of reboot aliens being scaled off like their classic series counterpart heatblast being portrayed weaker because he was weaker in classic too (which you said it yourself that you don't agree in cross scaling like that)I definitely do not believe in cross-scaling. I was referring to this though:
Translation: He wants Heatblast to be a mid-tier and doesn't like me using the reasoning that since Heatblast has been portrayed as weaker than aliens like Diamondhead and Four Arms all throughout Ben 10 that he shouldn't be on their level. Then tries to use Reboot scaling to say Heatblast is in fact a mid-tier for fighting someone who also fights his omni-kixed form, meaning Heatblast would be equal to his amped self, which obviously doesn't make any sense... but it's still the reboot's fault for being inconsistent in this regard.well this scaling is based off of reboot aliens being scaled off like their classic series counterpart heatblast being portrayed weaker because he was weaker in classic too (which you said it yourself that you don't agree in cross scaling like that)
so what this scaling needs is proper adjustment from Reboot aspect and not Classic series aspect once it's adjusted then it should be applied.
This seems to make sense to me.well this scaling is based off of reboot aliens being scaled off like their classic series counterpart heatblast being portrayed weaker because he was weaker in classic too (which you said it yourself that you don't agree in cross scaling like that)
so what this scaling needs is proper adjustment from Reboot aspect and not Classic series aspect once it's adjusted then it should be applied.
Hmm. Then I am neutral. What do you think @Firestorm808 ?Translation: He wants Heatblast to be a mid-tier and doesn't like me using the reasoning that since Heatblast has been portrayed as weaker than aliens like Diamondhead and Four Arms all throughout Ben 10 that he shouldn't be on their level. Then tries to use Reboot scaling to say Heatblast is in fact a mid-tier for fighting someone who also fights his omni-kixed form, meaning Heatblast would be equal to his amped self, which obviously doesn't make any sense... but it's still the reboot's fault for being inconsistent in this regard.