Ben 10: Minor Upgrade/Abilities

[REX9097]

Anodite Physiology:

Space-Time Manipulation (Gwen's Mana can open a hole between Ben's Dimension and the Null Void, as we know, opening a hole between the Null Void and Ben's Dimension, cause a ripping apart dimensional barrier. Mana can cancel move between dimensions, as Gwen did with Dagon's army, which can move and imprison people between dimensions)

Sealing (Only Anodite can sealed the people in the Mana Field, shown when Gwen and Verdona can sealed the people many times)

Immortality (Type 7) (Anodites are free spirits and he destroyed their body, so Anodites cannot die due to being spirits)

Power Nullification (Nullifies mana attacks, shown when Verdona and Sunny)

Resistance to Energy Projection (They are unaffected by mana/life-energy attacks, shown when Verdona and Sunny)

Resistance to Physics Manipulation (Since Anodite are beings made of mana/magic, and that magic is not bound by rules, it should be not bound by rules of physics)

Alien X:

Resistance to Body Puppetry (He is beyond the control of Ben and the Omnitrix as he can never be controlled, and his transformation cannot be undone by the Omnitrix unless he does it)

Note: Bellicus and Serena is mind of Alien X. The only way to control Alien X is to convince his minds (Bellicus and Serena).

Resistance to Energy Manipulation and Projection (Unaffected by Annihilarrgh's universal energy blast)

Resistance to Soul Destruction (Unaffected by Annihilarrgh explosion, who destroy entire universe, including souls like Ectonurites)

Soul Destruction and Reality Destruction (Can destroy all universes, including souls)

Annihilarrgh:

Life Manipulation, Creation and Reality Warping (Can created "Timestream" and all life in it)

Non-Physical Interaction and Soul Destruction (Can destroy entire Universe, including souls)

Physics Manipulation and Law Manipulation (Annihilarrgh created all the universes, including own laws of physics, and set different laws of physics for each universe)

Note: Paradox calling blue universe as the “next universe over” instead of entitling it as a parallel universe. This should be consistent from Contumelias calling the Ben's Annihilarrgh universe as “the most interesting one so far” which would conclude that they must have created multiple such universes before and possibly more after the creation of Ben's Universe.
Chronosapien Time Bomb:

Soul Destruction and Reality Destruction (Can destroy all universes/timelines, including souls)

Anodite Gwen:
All abilities of Verdona and Sunny (It has the abilities of Anodites)

Statistics Reduction (Can make Humungousaur weaken)

Verdona:

Statistics Amplification (Increased his power in fight)

D'Void:

Supergenius (Created the Machine which drilled a hole between Ben's Dimension and and null void, that caused an affect on the entire Null Void)

 

[Hellformer]

Looks fine

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

I disagree to Mana resisting Physics, as you need to prove that extends to Physics, But this does seemingly qualify for immunity to Law Manipulation.

You need to prove that Mana has an effect on life, otherwise I disagree.

That doesn't qualify as Soul Manipulation, it just means the Annilhilarrgh can interact with and destroy souls, which is Non-Physical Interaction. You need to prove that it can for example, rip souls from beings. Likewise I disagree of Alien X resistance to it.

Everything else looks fine at a glance.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Disagree:
Spacetime manipulation. Noting here was referring to manipulation of space or time. Just dimensional travel and resistance to dimensional travel.
Soul manipulation.(There is no such thing as soud destruction)Souls are the spirits of dead beings. The Ectonurites are a species of aliens that appear as ghost with intangibility. They're not spirits or souls.
Power Nullification. Verdona's was attack reflection and Sunny's was resistance to mana manipulation. I find both of these kinda better ngl.
Reality Destruction. There isn't such a thing as reality destruction to my knowledge. Only Existance Erasure.

Agree with the rest.

 

[REX9097]

I disagree to Mana resisting Physics, as you need to prove that extends to Physics, But this does seemingly qualify for immunity to Law Manipulation.

Mana/Magic can warp reality without any rules, indicating that no rules in reality can stop the mana/magic to warp reality, among these rules are law of physics (being part of the rules of reality).

You need to prove that Mana has an effect on life, otherwise I disagree.

You can clearly see that Mana has effect an characters and even life.

That doesn't qualify as Soul Manipulation, it just means the Annilhilarrgh can interact with and destroy souls, which is Non-Physical Interaction. You need to prove that it can for example, rip souls from beings. Likewise I disagree of Alien X resistance to it.

We see that Beerus got Soul Destruction because he was able to destroy souls.

Beerus

Before any creation must come destruction!Beerus Beerus (ビルス, Birusu?) is Universe 7's God of Destruction. It is his duty to destroy planets, races, and individuals that are deemed to be a threat to the proper development of the universe. However, Beerus has become bored with his role, being...

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[REX9097]

Spacetime manipulation. Noting here was referring to manipulation of space or time. Just dimensional travel and resistance to dimensional travel.

It was pointed out that opening a portal between the Null Void and Ben's Dimension cause a ripping apart dimensional barrier. (D'Void machine was creating a portal between the Null Void and Ben's Dimension, causing a ripping apart dimensional barrier).

Power Nullification. Verdona's was attack reflection and Sunny's was resistance to mana manipulation. I find both of these kinda better ngl.

What are you saying? Verdona literally nullified mana shield and Sunny stopped mana attacks.

Soul manipulation.(There is no such thing as soud destruction)Souls are the spirits of dead beings. The Ectonurites are a species of aliens that appear as ghost with intangibility. They're not spirits or souls.

We see that Beerus got Soul Destruction because he was able to destroy souls.

Beerus

Before any creation must come destruction!Beerus Beerus (ビルス, Birusu?) is Universe 7's God of Destruction. It is his duty to destroy planets, races, and individuals that are deemed to be a threat to the proper development of the universe. However, Beerus has become bored with his role, being...

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Reality Destruction. There isn't such a thing as reality destruction to my knowledge. Only Existance Erasure.

Annihilarrgh got Reality Destruction thanks to having destroyed an entire universe.

Annihilarrgh

The Annihilarrgenesistoriathimiorgost (Annihilarrgh for short) was an extremely powerful and dangerous device used by the Contumelia. Tier: 1-B Name: Annihilarrgenesistoriathimiorgost, Annihilarrgh Origin: Ben 10 Age: Older than the Universe Classification: Universe Creator, Doomsday Device...

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[Celestial_Scaler25]

It was pointed out that opening a portal between the Null Void and Ben's Dimension cause a ripping apart dimensional barrier. (D'Void machine was creating a portal between the Null Void and Ben's Dimension, causing a ripping apart dimensional barrier).

Are the Dimensions separated by a barrier of spacetime?

What are you saying? Verdona literally nullified mana shield and Sunny stopped mana attacks.

Verdona broke thought the shield. She didn't nullify it. She did Gwen's mana ball attack. Sunny didn't nullify Gwen's attack. She tanked it in the face and had no ill affect.

Annihilarrgh got Reality Destruction thanks to having destroyed an entire universe.

Annihilarrgh

The Annihilarrgenesistoriathimiorgost (Annihilarrgh for short) was an extremely powerful and dangerous device used by the Contumelia. Tier: 1-B Name: Annihilarrgenesistoriathimiorgost, Annihilarrgh Origin: Ben 10 Age: Older than the Universe Classification: Universe Creator, Doomsday Device...

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The link attached to reality destruction leads to Existance Erasure.

 

[Hellformer]

Are the Dimensions separated by a barrier of spacetime?

Yes this is why they are considered as seperate space-time continuums and a timeline is considered 2-A for having infinite such dimensions

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

Mana/Magic can warp reality without any rules, indicating that no rules in reality can stop the mana/magic to warp reality, among these rules are law of physics (being part of the rules of reality).

It's stated magic has no rules, that's it. Extrapolated assumptions isn't an indication.

You can clearly see that Mana has effect an characters and even life.

That isn't the evidence I'm asking for, I'm asking for Mana affecting life by default, these are specific applications that would only apply to them.

And affecting characters is just AP.

We see that Beerus got Soul Destruction because he was able to destroy souls.

Yes, because Beerus is erasing them from existence with Hax, the Annihilarrgh Is AP.

 

[REX9097]

Verdona broke thought the shield. She didn't nullify it. She did Gwen's mana ball attack. Sunny didn't nullify Gwen's attack. She tanked it in the face and had no ill affect.

I actually did it you can see that the shield is gone.

Sunny nullified mana where you could see she disappeared.

 

[REX9097]

It's stated magic has no rules, that's it. Extrapolated assumptions isn't an indication.

That isn't the evidence I'm asking for, I'm asking for Mana affecting life by default, these are specific applications that would only apply to them.

And affecting characters is just AP.

Yes, because Beerus is erasing them from existence with Hax, the Annihilarrgh Is AP.

It has been agreed that Magic can warp reality with no laws or rules.

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That isn't the evidence I'm asking for, I'm asking for Mana affecting life by default, these are specific applications that would only apply to them.

Do you mean that life must need mana to live? Or do you mean that it directly affects life? as it is accepted life manipulation for Mana Manipulation

Yes, because Beerus is erasing them from existence with Hax, the Annihilarrgh Is AP.

Zeno literally got Soul Destruction which is capable of destroying everything.

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[Pepsimanslover_69]

It has been agreed that Magic can warp reality with no laws or rules.

Expect it isn't, whoever added that did under staff noses. Literally look at the thread, blanket agrees because no one noticed.

Do you mean that life must need mana to live? Or do you mean that it directly affects life? as it is accepted life manipulation for Mana Manipulation

I mean, does Mana affect life by default? Can someone just throw Mana at someone and have their lifeforce affected? Everytime?

Zeno literally got Soul Destruction which is capable of destroying everything.

Zeno literally again has it because of EE.

 

[REX9097]

Expect it isn't, whoever added that did under staff noses. Literally look at the thread, blanket agrees because no one noticed.

Literally added to Mana page

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Mana are a set of Magic powers from the show Ben 10 (Original series). Mana (alternatively spelled as Manna) is the hidden mystic life energy that permeates all of nature, being found in everything from aliens to humans to plants, with the exception of Ectonurites, and is the substance of magic...

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I mean, does Mana affect life by default? Can someone just throw Mana at someone and have their lifeforce affected? Everytime?

Resistance to Energy Projection will be better.

Zeno literally again has it because of EE.

Bro , he got Low 1-C thanks to destroying everything which means it's not just EE, let me remind you that Annihilarrgh got EE thanks to destroying the entire universe

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

Literally added to Mana page

There's no mention of law.

Resistance to Energy Projection will be better.

Yeah that's better.

Bro , he got Low 1-C thanks to destroying everything which means it's not just EE, let me remind you that Annihilarrgh got EE thanks to destroying the entire universe

Because DB has a UES, so hax would scale to physicals.

The Annihilarrgh has it listed as "reality destruction" with no justification.

 

[REX9097]

There's no mention of law.

He gave you the same video that I put up, plus they put up omnipotence rule clarification And they said themselves that "Magic can warp reality without any rules."

Alien X omnipotence rule clarification

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Because DB has a UES, so hax would scale to physicals.

The Annihilarrgh has it listed as "reality destruction" with no justification.

It was answered here that if a soul/ghost is completely destroyed, it will be Soul Destruction

Soul destruction= Existence Erasure?

If a character can literally destroy souls that is existence erasure? Thanks in advance. Note: Souls are free from physicall bodies.

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[Pepsimanslover_69]

He gave you the same video that I put up, plus they put up omnipotence rule clarification And they said themselves that "Magic can warp reality without any rules."

Fair.

It was answered here that if a soul/ghost is completely destroyed, it will be Soul Destruction

I don't think that thread can be used, it's from the era of old vsbw.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Yes this is why they are considered as seperate space-time continuums and a timeline is considered 2-A for having infinite such dimensions

Then, yes. I agree.

I actually did it you can see that the shield is gone.

Sunny nullified mana where you could see she disappeared.

Still disagree with Verdona's shield argument as you can see the 2 broken pieces of the shield.
Didn't see the part of Sunny nullifing the attack. Agree with it.
Still disagree on Soul manipulation as the Ectonurites aren't ghost but Ghostlike aliens and Reality Destruction as it already has existence erasure.

 

[REX9097]

Still disagree on Soul manipulation as the Ectonurites aren't ghost but Ghostlike aliens and Reality Destruction as it already has existence erasure.

We also have Anodites which are souls in themselves.

 

[REX9097]

Still disagree with Verdona's shield argument as you can see the 2 broken pieces of the shield.
Didn't see the part of Sunny nullifing the attack. Agree with it.

Verdona Anodites also transferred the power of Gwen and Sunny, so the abilities of Anodite Gwen and Sunny must be the same as the abilities of Anodites

Gwen have also Power Nullification

 

[REX9097]

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