Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

[Greenshifter]

Feedback one shots Alien X at Full Power
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Consistent with AX being unable to stop the Annihilargh twice and Four Arms knocking him and almost Galactic Gladiator out.

 

[Reiner04]

Consistent with AX being unable to stop the Annihilargh twice and Four Arms knocking him and almost Galactic Gladiator out.

four arms high 3a revision? I see

 

[Greenshifter]

POV: When your Ben's 20th strongest alien yet everyone loves you for your power and CHADness.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Feedback one shots Alien X at Full Power
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[Aachintya31]

I dont know if its allowed, i was able to see old profiles of alien X and they were quite Lol.

Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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Alien X

Alien X is the Omnitrix's DNA sample of a Celestialsapien from the Forge of Creation. Tier: 1-B Name: Alien X, his personalities include Serena, Bellicus, and Ben Tennyson Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Was born in a realm that is out of sync with time, implied to have existed...

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He was actually 3-A when his profile was created so zamasu indeed didn't do anything new

 

[Aachintya31]

Just checked these pages are easily available on the history section
Literally spent 1 hour clicking Older Version

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/power-of-the-cosmos-ben-10-vs-garou.140973/

 

[Greenshifter]

I-I answered based on my own scaling... not VSBW's! (Oh boy...)

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Classic Ben 10 will be small town level again (specifically small town+). I’m not sure about UAF yet since there are more feats I’m looking for, but OV is currently lookin at 6-C unfortunately.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

but OV is currently lookin at 6-C

Ben and Rex rematch?

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Ben and Rex rematch?

My brother in Christ Ben stomps.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

My brother in Christ Ben stomps.

nah, not Clockwork, Ultra T, Alien X, Atomix and Way big

 

[Greenshifter]

Classic Ben 10 will be small town level again (specifically small town+). I’m not sure about UAF yet since there are more feats I’m looking for, but OV is currently lookin at 6-C unfortunately.

Sounds like an outlier.
Anyways I put my foot down for OS, UAF and OV getting different ratings. So either shaft everyone to small town or put everyone at 6-C.

 

[Greenshifter]

Ultra T

?

nah, not Clockwork, Ultra T, Alien X, Atomix and Way big

Rex can deal with all of those except for Alien X. Unless that we’re forgetting that Rex can oneshot all of Ben’s aliens with his BFS, minus DH?

My brother in Christ Ben stomps.

Rex outskills and shuts down the Omnitrix gg

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

?

Ultra T is the spanish name for Upgrade

 

[Aachintya31]

Rex outskills and shuts down the Omnitrix gg

The canonical match was more or less a tie ,without the use of the mentioned aliens.

 

[Greenshifter]

Oh, Upgrade gets fried by Rex… maybe. Let me think that through… he probably gets fried if we don’t count Reboot feats.

 

[Greenshifter]

The canonical match was more or less a tie ,without the use of the mentioned aliens.

Yup, but now Rex has prior knowledge. He successfully nuked Alpha’s watch.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Oh, Upgrade gets fried by Rex… maybe. Let me think that through… he probably gets fried if we don’t count Reboot feats.

well it depends on if Rex can make his Nanites affect Upgrade first or if Upgrade affects Rex first

 

[Aachintya31]

Yup, but now Rex has prior knowledge. He successfully nuked Alpha’s watch.

OG omnitrix isn't made of nanites ,he just absorbed those nanites.

 

[Greenshifter]

well it depends on if Rex can make his Nanites affect Upgrade first or if Upgrade affects Rex first

Instinctive reactions. Upgrade also had trouble with sentient beings before.

OG omnitrix isn't made of nanites

Rex' builds are metal, not nanites. Same should go for Alpha.

he just absorbed those nanites.

Prove it, also how would this prevent Alpha from remaking the watch?

 

[Aachintya31]

Prove it

The Pattern how he wrecked alpha's ultimatrix and cures EVO's by absorbing the nanites are awfully similar

also how would this prevent Alpha from remaking the watch?

That's his limitation ,he probably doesn't store the information he creates
otherwise he could have done it after rex absorbed his ultimatrix.

Rex' builds are metal, not nanites. Same should go for Alpha.

*nanite based metals ,otherwise once formed they would be permanent.
He himself is a sentient nanite

 

[Greenshifter]

The Pattern how he wrecked alpha's ultimatrix and cures EVO's by absorbing the nanites are awfully similar

He doesn’t absorb their nanites, he shuts them down. So it’s the pattern of Rex using tech manipulation that you see.

That's his limitation ,he probably doesn't store the information he creates

He does, he had to hit the Ultimatrix twice to completely copy it.

otherwise he could have done it after rex absorbed his ultimatrix.

Not if Rex also destroyed the info.

*nanite based metals ,otherwise once formed they would be permanent.
He himself is a sentient nanite

The nanites shape the metal but they aren’t the whole build. Else he wouldn’t be able to cut nanites in half.

 

[Greenshifter]

Hmm I stand corrected, now the offloading thing makes more sense.

In each case absorbing some of his nanites wouldn’t get rid of the Ultimatrix, it’s still the same pattern as when he uses tech manipulation in general and usually we see Rex’s nanites interfacing with the other nanites when he cures.

 

[Aachintya31]

He doesn’t absorb their nanites, he shuts them down

He only says he "time to shut off" but basically he is absorbing those nanites and needs to constantly injected out otherwise overloads him .This was shown in the show.

He does, he had to hit the Ultimatrix twice to completely copy it.

That's basically first time only absorbing the charge to transform ben back.
Then the next he says "perhaps i could use a suitable host" then hits the ultimatrix to copy it.

Not if Rex also destroyed the info.

He is never shown to have the ability to destroy information.

Else he wouldn’t be able to cut nanites in half.

That basically depends on how he orders the nanites to form.

 

[Aachintya31]

In each case absorbing some of his nanites wouldn’t get rid of the Ultimatrix, it’s still the same pattern as when he uses tech manipulation in general and usually we see Rex’s nanites interfacing with the other nanites when he cures.

yes
it's hard to find scan for for GREX on yt

 

[Greenshifter]

That's basically first time only absorbing the charge to transform ben back

You sure?

He is never shown to have the ability to destroy information.

I mean if you destroy a hard drive the info that was on it will also be gone.

That basically depends on how he orders the nanites to form.

The nanites don’t change shape, the nanites shape the metal.

 

[Aachintya31]

You sure?

Seems like it
1. Hacking the ultimatrix disabling its Firewalls.
2. Copying the schematics of a discharged ultimatrix.

I mean if you destroy a hard drive the info that was on it will also be gone.

Ok in both case ,absorbing or destroying information is lost.Basically Nanites stores the information.

The nanites don’t change shape, the nanites shape the metal.

Never seen in the show ,should be similar to elena's nanites who have the ability to shapeshift.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Classic Ben 10 will be small town level again (specifically small town+). I’m not sure about UAF yet since there are more feats I’m looking for, but OV is currently lookin at 6-C unfortunately.

Cool, but why?

 

[Greenshifter]

Never seen in the show ,should be similar to elena's nanites who have the ability to shapeshift.

We see several close-ups on them at various times. So no.

Ok in both case ,absorbing or destroying information is lost.Basically Nanites stores the information.

Yes it seems our interpretations are equal there. I think my interpretation still makes a bit more sense since we’ve never seen Rex do a localized cure event like that and Alpha is likely incurable.

Also when Rex used curing on VK’s mechanical hand it fell apart, rather than being completely gone.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Sounds like an outlier.
Anyways I put my foot down for OS, UAF and OV getting different ratings. So either shaft everyone to small town or put everyone at 6-C.

No

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

We’re is the small town lvl and 6c stuff coming from

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

We’re is the small town lvl and 6c stuff coming from

My wall. I got like 100 calcs from different verses.

 

[Greenshifter]

No

What are you gonna go through with the "Celestialsapiens retconned everything" after all?

 

[Aachintya31]

What are you gonna go through with the "Celestialsapiens retconned everything" after all?

Gag.

 

[YoPercy]

Is Alien X lowball high-hyperverse level?

 

[Shadyboi0]

Is Alien X lowball high-hyperverse level?

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No.

 

[Aachintya31]

Is Alien X lowball high-hyperverse level?

Fun.

 

[Greenshifter]

Is Alien X lowball high-hyperverse level?

No low outer

 

[YoPercy]

K thanks