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Like this and nope Atomix sucks apparently.
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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread
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Inverse-squared law makes that calc way lower and Ben dodged the blast with Jetray. But yeah just "higher with true form" is fine.
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got any more pixels, also why does atomix suck?
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I think the link is fixed now?
Max can damage Malgax, which yeets Malgax > Way Big.
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I can't read anything in that image. Plus wouldn't Atomix being High 5-A along with one shotting Ultimate Humungousaur put him in like top 5?
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I'm not using VSBW's pages.
He didn't even two-shot him as Albedo was still conscious.
No, he's never been in the top 5.
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Out of curiosity, where's that image from? Is it a canon comic? I have a friend who likes Chromastone
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It's canon both under my standards and VSBW's. It's part of a CN Action Pack.
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Oh alright. Wonder if that screenshot about the Ben 10 beings from a realm of "uncountably infinite dimensions" was also from an Action Pack
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Incalculable dimension scan is from the IDW comic named Ghost Ship. You have to argue it’s canon without using author statements if you want to use it.
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Dang. I wanted Low 1-A Alien X but I guess I have to hope for 1-B for now
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Yeah I think he was specifically referring to reboot alien x getting hurt by fourarms and trapped by bloxx
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Doesn't he have a Low 6-B calculation for the mini sun? That'd put him above the ultimates, right?
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You think ultimates have stellar range?
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No, stellar AP is what I meant.
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You have the Ultimates at tier 4?
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How do you even manage to do that
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What are the arguments for Ultimate Humungousaur, Ultimate Echo Echo, etc not scaling to High 5-A?
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He doesn't scale to him, he downscales
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So should Ultimate Spidermonkey and Ultimate Humungousaur.
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Doesn’t Ultimate Spidermonkey get one shot?
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three shot, he withstood the first explosion, one punch and was knocked out in the second explosion.
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Just checked the “fight”. UH gets blown back with an energy-charged punch then gets blasted down Billions Tower with an energy ball. Albedo seems to be mostly unfazed by the energy ball based on how quickly he transformed into US and climbed back up the tower.
US gets knocked back with a “Fissile Whistle” from Atomix and then knocked out with Atomix’s “Nuclear Winner” explosion.
I was wrong about US getting one-shot, but UH does take Atomix’s attacks noticeably better.
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You know, this further favors the idea that he had no control over his own strength... Not only did he not know what the Alien's strength was, he also had no control due to being inexperienced, and this is what you are suggesting by highlighting "the first time", not the opposite.
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Well he accidentally almost kicked his friends into orbit but later in the series he was seen performing Low 6-B feats and fighting Malware who traded blows with Way Big
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And what is this supposed to prove? Even though they were his friends, he couldn't reduce his strength enough, imagine against Albedo.
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Well yeah, it was his very first time using Atomix. Of course he's not going to be good at controlling his strength
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He slightly damaged Malgax so that’s fine.
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Depends on if you mean Ascalon stuff or Way Big and Atomix stuff
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I know the arguments for them scaling and I know about the Dagon circular scaling argument against it, but I was wondering if there were any other arguments against them scaling.
From what I understand they used to be High 5-A on the wiki but were then downgraded, so I’m interested in all the potential reasons why.
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George holds back against Ult. Humungousaur and Vilgax, that’s it really. I’ll upgrade them back to High 5-A eventually.
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I’m not sure if he was, at least not significantly. He admits he was holding back in their first battle (which is pretty obvious based on his demeanour), however he said he wouldn’t give Ben the same luxury the next time and that checks out with his more serious look in their next fight. It also seems kinda silly for George to hold back so much against Ultimate Humungousaur that his attacks are almost useless.
Ben also knows that Ascalon can destroy planets by this point and was still confident that UH could fight George (despite failing with base Humungousaur earlier), so even if it’s possible George was holding back UH should still scale to the feat.
They really should be IMO, even without the Ascalon scaling there’s still Ultimate Kevin with To’kustar DNA and Ultimate Humungousaur taking energy attacks from Atomix.
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