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frfr.The blog got everyone wanked igI am gonna blame everything on @Maverick_Zero_X, @Firestorm808 and @omegabronic
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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread
- Thread starter Maverick_Zero_X
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Yeah. It seems highly inconsistent and not to mention that Ditto, echo echo and many other aliens shouldn't be Tier 7 as well.
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The humans should be downgraded, they shouldn't scale to the aliens. And based on the context I went through the blog for the feats for Ben harming those that harmed spidermonkey is pretty much an outlier
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Yeah.
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16 years ben has Relativistic speed. I have lost my hopes on humanity.
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esoterica be like -_- it is quite consistent tbh, specially durability wise, some aliens that overpower ben just upscale
abilities and mobility, outside of physical strenght ben is still just a human, spider monkey can jump higher and has acrobatics, jetray can fly, etc + most aliens would just upscale from ben anyway, if anything ben downscales from 7-A,
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combat speed and reactions
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Even then, do explain how these aren't outliers for base Ben. Like his younger self was able to harm him, base Gwen getting her leg broken by falling, etc.
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which is an outlier for younger ben
which is a contradiction either way since humans in ben 10 had tier 9 feats for a long time https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Liger686/Ben_10:_Tier_9_Humans
things like "taking damage from falling" are just normal pis is this kind of show, they can't be tier 10 when they have tier 9 feats(some even done cassually)
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what is the problem with those?
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I CANNOT DIGEST IT. MY STOMACH PAINS
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The anti-feats still apply for literal 7-A humans, and if anything, the tier 9 feats are more consistent for them
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I CANNOT DIGEST IT. MY STOMACH PAINS
they being humans is irrelevant here
most, if not all, the tier 9 feats are extremely casual
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btw, i am going to be occupied until 21:00 so if any of you want to make a thread to downgrade them, make it tomorrow please? thank you
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Good time for me. I can't see base ben folding OG four arms and vilgax in his pocket.
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That's not how it works.
Just because they performed casual tier 9 feats doesn't mean that it will elevate them all the way to 7-A, unless if you got consistent 7-A/Tier 8 feats on their own terms. Otherwise you'd assume base Ben would solo all the OG aliens without the use of the watch at all. Which makes no sense whatsoever.
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Not gonna lie, this seems like an argument from incredulity
Yes it is, fictional humans can be super human in power no problem
But aren't anchors from higher tiers either, since they are so casual that are a non factor here
which they do, have you saw the profiles?
Also an argument of incredulity, they have consistent feats for it? Yes, so yeah, uafo ben would solo all og aliens in power since he has feats for it
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Not in this context where you're literally suggesting that base Ben scales to the aliens when they're clearly much stronger than he is. There isn't enough evidence besides outliers. This completely breaks the scaling
Again, doesn't make them 7-A, but otherwise would make them 9-B.
Which they're outliers and overall not very good justifications.
And no, they clearly don't have enough consistent feats to be 7-A period.
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How can they be when that has consistently show to not be the case? Ben has like, 8 feats of surviving and tanking tier 7 characters attacks
When they are so consistent they stop being outliers
how so? Ben downscales from the feat
good strawman, i never said that that did, only that "anti feats" like hurting by a fall are the inconsistent ones no matter what and shouldn't be used to downgrade anything
all of the said tier 9 feats are stupidely casual, so much so that they don't matter for the scaling
how are they outliers when they are extremely consistent?
Have you saw the profiles? They have like, 8 feats on that level, i can search for more if you want
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Which would more likely be for durability rather than AP if that were the case.
Then show me more scenes of how it's consistent, or either way I guess the Omnitrix has no point in being used either way if that were the case.
You haven't even proved why exactly Ben would downscale from Diamondhead.
I strawmanned nothing, you still basically implied that Ben and the rest of the humans could physically scale to 7-A just because of those.
See above.
Show more proof then
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Nope since ben can damage beings who can harm him, like simian
You are affirming that it isn't consistent even with the scenes on the profiles, but okay, wait till tommorrow and i will bring it to you, since today i am very busy
you just ignored my earlier post about mobility hax etc, heck what part of ben DOWNSCALING you didn't understood? Most of them are still stronger then him
Somewhat harming an alien that does?
No i didn't, i said that those extremely casual tier 9 feats make your "gwen harmed herself by falling" argument, and any other of such, completely moot
Same
Tommorrow since i am busy for today, but also ser the profiles dude
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But in any other case, not everyone literally has to be upgraded or even scale to 7-A. And I also saw in your blog that you were dividing diamondhead's AP to downscale echo echo, you literally can't scale like that without any confirmed multiplier otherwise he'd downscale unquantifiably
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I agree.
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everyone that scales to people that scale to diamond head does
one echo echo attack can't even flinch thunderpig, who can harm diamond head , and could only deal any significant damage to him, by combining the attack power of 3 echo clones in one attack, 1 combined attack of 3 echos = 3x one echo alone, i can scale as it is logical
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Clones don't necessarily build up a multiplier. And they didn't even harm him even with that, literally all they did was reflect his attack by forming up a forcefield against him
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It is an adition, imagine each clone as a 1 and thunderpig as a 3, 1<<3, when the echo's combine their powers it is like 1+1+1=3
They did, wacth the clip again, they attack him and he falls unconcious by the the sonic attack
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Then you don't divide at all, you just subtract. But even then, I don't think downscaling like that is reliable even there way
My mistake then, but still
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Why swampfire weaker than base ben?
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This is also why I said this breaks scaling, why would Ben get suddenly just get slightly weaker with these aliens besides his weaker aliens? Honestly, I can't wait for the humans to get downgraded soon
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He isn't, ben downscales
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That is what i did tho?
Why not?
Outside of disbelief, what is the argument against it? Humans being this strong is fairly normal in ben 10, max contending with aliens is so common that it is a meme at this point, the rooter arc exemplify this even further
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You clearly divided, don't lie to me.
See the rules for multipliers
That's literally because Max literally has the preparation necessary against these aliens considering that he's a plumber. So do explain how the humans in ben 10 are somehow comparable to them.
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Bro ,you've made ben 10 the most wanked verse on the wiki
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Not meBro ,you've made ben 10 the most wanked verse on the wiki
I just made a cosmology
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Look, can you see a single wank? A single headcanon in the entire cosmology page? All theBro ,you've made ben 10 the most wanked verse on the wiki
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