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Aggregor?His only good feats
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Doctor Animo created that device that is capable of destablizing & destroying Null Void which is stated to go on forever by Max. Big Chill froze the energy beam and the machine. Also Atomix probably has Concep Hax. (Pretty sure Atomix is in Tier 2)He froze it which made it stop working, I don't think the mechanisms in the machine are 2-C
Seems like he only froze the machine plus I'm pretty sure the Null void has been called a pocket dimension and the galvans created it, it can't be infinite plus it'd be an outlier cause that would make anyone who breaks out of bigchill's ice tier 2 also Atomix is tier 2 on the wiki?Doctor Animo created that device that is capable of destablizing & destroying Null Void which is stated to go on forever by Max. Big Chill froze the energy beam and the machine. Also Atomix probably has Concep Hax. (Pretty sure Atomix is in Tier 2)
Eh kinda, he had the gauntlet that could counter intag and had homing lasers . Ya pretty much idk why he would pull up without being atleast somewhat read for waybig when he was going around and amassing more power. For a older and more powerful waybig? Sure, but this isn’t my main selling point so eh whatever.seems like headcannon. All he did was gather some super powers and Conquer worlds so he'd be ready to fight Ben again, he didn't specifically look for specific counters to Ben's aliens. Ready to face a 10 year old waybig? Because he pulled out his cute sword that was covered in fire? But then decided to just stare and not do anything, and then he got stomped by Ben playfully using waybig when vilgax was a lot bigger. Doesn't seem like he was ready for waybig at all.
How they look doesn't really have anything to do with being millions of times more powerful than themselves 6 years ago.
Strength feats for OV kevin? Ultimate kevin was hurt by arcade machines, spidermonkey, missles, fodder Charmcaster golemns etc. He's the definition of weak.
His only good feats are KOing ult humungousaur and tanking getting put through 3 houses. His anti feats are so consistent that his good feats become outliers.
Also iirc OV kevin was holding back and pretending like he'd gone crazy/evil.
This isn't dragon ball. Training doesn't give you UI levels of power in Ben 10. Ben just gets better at using his powers.
Yes, although inferior to generate rex would be a better phrase yes?Omfl is this fodder ben 10 discussion thread?
Now I doNothing I repeat NOTHING that me or Green discusses is on wiki in the exact tier we are discussing
you..... know that right ?
Yes, although inferior to generate rex would be a better phrase yes?
.Eh kinda, he had the gauntlet that could counter intag and had homing lasers . Ya pretty much idk why he would pull up without being atleast somewhat read for waybig when he was going around and amassing more power. For a older and more powerful waybig? Sure, but this isn’t my main selling point so eh whatever.
Not x1000000My point is alien biology is a lot more unpredictable and even younger members of there spieces can make massive gains in a few years
Yeah he shrugged it off after he was down for a long time.Having more alien dna then ult Kevin, when? I remember him shrugging off spideys attacks,legit,pretty sure he just absorbed them. I fail to see how considering he beat aggregor, armadillo, dr viktor, and as you stated ult Humngasaour.
Not my job to refresh your memory of when he was having trouble with arcade machines and charmcaster golemns.Not really, the only one that seems to be legit is the missle one and possibly the spider-monkey.
YeDidn’t he have to actually try because he was in servants tp range or whatever?
She got better yeah doesn't really mean anything considering we're talking about diamondhead/Ben's aliens.Pretty sure Gwen got stronger training with her powers
Yeah it's my favourite show along with miraculous ladybug, it's such a good show. The story isn't so clumped up and messy like Ben 10, inconsistencies are at the bare minimum in generator rex.Fra, generator Rex story is better than ben 10 series upto alien force.
Very true.inconsistencies
destroying the machine wouldn’t make Big Chill scale lolDoctor Animo created that device that is capable of destablizing & destroying Null Void which is stated to go on forever by Max. Big Chill froze the energy beam and the machine. Also Atomix probably has Concep Hax. (Pretty sure Atomix is in Tier 2)
Rath got no feats so noAnyways.. so is rath stronger than fourarms or not. I think he is
But he overpowers looma twice, he also rips a tank in two and beats up a techadon and survived its laser that vaporized part of Mr smoothie, tanked Rex's punk busters too. He seems very fourarms level to me, and it has been stated that he's stronger than fourarmsRath got no feats so no
Why not?.
Not x1000000
Yeah he shrugged it off after he was down for a long time.
He beat Armodrillo? When? You mean when he hit him and then Armodrillo proceeded to hit a supporting beam causing a cave in which lead to Armodrillo running for his life away from falling planks? I don't remember him ever beating vicktor.
Not my job to refresh your memory of when he was having trouble with arcade machines and charmcaster golemns.
Ye
She got better yeah doesn't really mean anything considering we're talking about diamondhead/Ben's aliens.
Cause that's not how it is in the show.Why not?
actually it was a cave in but ya mb I thought Kevin beat him. Regardless my other points still stand. Alan stated he did off screen along with a couple other characters
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Watch Ben 10Pretty sure it is when I’m questioning your points, burden of proof and all that
Yes it does. It's just not a good point cause Kevin was still holding backso my point still stand no?
Highbreeds vary in power as stated by dwayne and doing better doesn't mean they were a million times weaker before. If they were a million times weaker than the Highbreeds before then they would've died the first time they fought one.I was responding to your point in general about the power lvl thing but regardless I don’t see why not considering Ben’s aliens were doing way better agianst vilgax and the highbreeds later on in the show
I don’t see why it wouldn’t fit a prime petrodapienCause that's not how it is in the show.
Good for him.
Watch Ben 10
Yes it does. It's just not a good point cause Kevin was still holding back
Highbreeds vary in power as stated by dwayne and doing better doesn't mean they were a million times weaker before. If they were a million times weaker than the Highbreeds before then they would've died the first time they fought one.
Ben's aliens never got better at dealing with Virgin gax. He just got ultimate swampfire. And again it's not like they were hundreds of times weaker before they started doing better.
Do petrosapiens have a reputation for getting powerful in the span of some years?I don’t see why it wouldn’t fit a prime petrodapien
.ya more ultimate scaling
Sure you did.Already did bruv
OkayEven then the fact he had to resorte to using gravattacks power is still pretty impressive
I know what your point is, I agree some of Ben's aliens do get stronger there's just no way I'm believing diamondhead tanking a 7-A/5-A punch and shrugging it off when six years ago he broke his hands trying to punch an 8-C character is not an outlier. It clearly is when he has no other feats in that category and would make anyone who hurt teen diamondhead 7-A/5-ATrue but there all still pretty strong considering that go from a bit weaker then vilgax to a lot stronger. they don’t have to be millions of times weaker or whatever, my point is they did better agianst Enemies that we’re clapping them earlier in the show. They did
base Swampfire alone was doing pretty decent agianst vilgax before going ultimate
this is the same guy that got folded from a single hit from a highbreed
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He was perfectly fine. He just lost the clash. And that episode was pretty weird cause vilgax was also wrecking tetrax and sugulite after he had absorbed the energy of three stars. Its simply an outlier for humungousaur.Humngasaour was actually able to box with vilgax
heck I’m pretty sure he even beat sone highbreeds near the end of the invasion arc. I don’t see how considering Humngasaour litterly got one shotted at full size.
No idea since the show barely talks about(especially since they were dead until like af)Do petrosapiens have a reputation for getting powerful in the span of some years?
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Sure you did.
Okay
I know what your point is, I agree some of Ben's aliens do get stronger there's just no way I'm believing diamondhead tanking a 7-A/5-A punch and shrugging it off when six years ago he broke his hands trying to punch an 8-C character is not an outlier. It clearly is when he has no other feats in that category and would make anyone who hurt teen diamondhead 7-A/5-A
What part of they vary in power don't you get? Some of them are stronger than vilgax some of them are considerably weaker, Swampfire later on goes to tank Multiple hits from a highbreed and restrain em. Swampfire shouldn't even be able to get a black eye. Seems like PIS. Anyways Swampfire isn't diamondhead.
He was perfectly fine. He just lost the clash. And that episode was pretty weird cause vilgax was also wrecking tetrax and sugulite after he had absorbed the energy of three stars. Its simply an outlier for humungousaur.
Now that I think about it. What impressive striking feats does virgin gax have? And what impressive striking feats does full sized humungousaur have?
From what?Well if the fourarms vs vilgax dream fight was cannon then "atleast Low 7-B" fourarms would've been a thing
Vilgax surviving his ship explodingFrom what?
.No idea since the show barely talks about(especially since they were dead until like af)
.Ya I already said did
Virgin gax isn't physically stronger than classic vilgax. 5-A slamworm confirmed??But your fine with dimandhead stomping a stronger version of vilgax? Ok but dose anyone actually hurt or damage him In omniverse? Because the only time that comes to mind is in his fight with malgax
AlrightActually there only a little bit weaker then vilgax at worst,oh good even better he took on a high ranking highbreed. True but he still got knocked out so eh.dosen’t matter it still goes back to my point of Ben training his aliens
And then struggles with billions robots later on, those things are called outliers. Wasn't daigon gax hurt and overpowered by eatle and also struggled to pick up half a castle?So getting completely overpowered, knocked back to his base form and getting his head stomped in is fine to you? You mean after suglite used said power to put his planet back together. Not really, he beats highbreeds near the end of the invasion arc and even takes a blow from a diagon amped vilgax.
I see what you did there. Alright i did watch and virgin gax and humungousaur never had impressive striking above High 8-C.go watch the show
In verse they are, but they aren’t accepted as 5D hereThey are.
Why would that be low 7-B tho? Is there a calc for it or are you just spewing random tier levels?Vilgax surviving his ship exploding
There is no proof that every single galaxy in the infinite universe moved, neither it can exist because there are infinite of them obv. Also “creation of end” galaxy or “milky way galaxy” was no different than before one's, in both cases particles from alien x body divided continuously to form all the matter in the galaxies within no time.I just read the 2-A thread. Hmmm. At the end, when the Earth is recreated, stars seem to spawn in. Is there proof that every single galaxy in the infinite universe was moved to position? Infinite Speed is a tier that can't be given lightly
Reaction speed? Yes so ig it work all the waysCan we give Infinite combat speed by reacting to infinite attack speed?
No combat speed ,GG and AX fought each other and attacked each other with infinite speed ,Reaction speed? Yes so ig it work all the ways
Seems like Goku/superman being slower than light consistently, nah les go forNo combat speed ,GG and AX fought each other and attacked each other with infinite speed ,albeit flying at MFTL+
Beyond a mortal like us can comprehend.How does the tier list work
Yeah that probably needs a downgrade
Slowest 2-A incoming
The latter, I can feel I'd be but calculating it would be of zero useWhy would that be low 7-B tho? Is there a calc for it or are you just spewing random tier levels?
:OBeyond a mortal like us can comprehend.
The map of infinity can be used for offensive purposes?
No, He froze the energy that was causing a High 3-A chain reaction, Low 2-C if you wanna wank the Null Void's size.Bigchill? Is... 2-C?
No he wasn't lol.he was even ready to face of agianst a 10 year old waybig
Lmao, no lol, OV Kevin only had access to 10 aliens.who should be just as strong as ultimate Kevin
Nah Ult. Kevin is on Ult. Humungousaur's level, everything else is just people trying to restrain him. Like Ult. Kevin explicitly has 1/10th the power of each of Ben's individual aliens so all those anti-feats would apply to Ben's aliens too if you wanna go that route.Ultimate kevin was hurt by arcade machines, spidermonkey, missles, fodder Charmcaster golemns etc. He's the definition of weak.
His only good feats are KOing ult humungousaur and tanking getting put through 3 houses. His anti feats are so consistent that his good feats become outliers.
He held back his durability? Crazy.Also iirc OV kevin was holding back and pretending like he'd gone crazy/evil.
Training can make you a lot stronger in Ben 10 but not by a dimensional gap indeed.This isn't dragon ball. Training doesn't give you UI levels of power in Ben 10. Ben just gets better at using his powers.
He's not else he'd be on the list.Pretty sure Atomix is in Tier 2
STFUOmfl is this fodder ben 10 discussion thread?
DD isn't talking about "on the wiki".Atomix is tier 2 on the wiki?
This is correct.Pretty sure Gwen got stronger training with her powers
******* based, for that alone I'll invite you to the Ben 10 server. Can I get your Discord tag?Yes, although inferior to generate rex would be a better phrase yes?
ULTRA BASEDFra, generator Rex story is better than ben 10 series upto alien force.
OMEGA BASEDGenerator Rex > Ben 10 (Entire Franchise, shows+comic+movies+games)
Mav read, DD clearly said the energy too.destroying the machine wouldn’t make Big Chill scale lol
He scales to Exo-Skull, so he should be relative. Granted I never saw the full fight, so if someone could link that'd be appreciated.Anyways.. so is rath stronger than fourarms or not. I think he is
LEMME TELL YOU SOMETHING INDIAN BEN 10 BRO, YOU NEED TO PAY BETTER ATTENTION WHEN RATH IS ON-SCREEN OR ELSE RATH WILL PUT HIS FEET ON YOUR FACE!Rath got no feats so no
No, He froze the energy that was causing a High 3-A chain reaction, Low 2-C if you wanna wank the Null Void's size.
No he wasn't lol.
Lmao, no lol, OV Kevin only had access to 10 aliens.
Nah Ult. Kevin is on Ult. Humungousaur's level, everything else is just people trying to restrain him. Like Ult. Kevin explicitly has 1/10th the power of each of Ben's individual aliens so all those anti-feats would apply to Ben's aliens too if you wanna go that route.
He held back his durability? Crazy.
Training can make you a lot stronger in Ben 10 but not by a dimensional gap indeed.
He's not else he'd be on the list.He does have High 1-B concept hax however.
STFU
DD isn't talking about "on the wiki".
This is correct.She might have actually gained some dimensional transcendences, so forget what I said earlier Ig.
******* based, for that alone I'll invite you to the Ben 10 server. Can I get your Discord tag?
ULTRA BASED
OMEGA BASED
Mav read, DD clearly said the energy too.
He scales to Exo-Skull, so he should be relative. Granted I never saw the full fight, so if someone could link that'd be appreciated.
LEMME TELL YOU SOMETHING INDIAN BEN 10 BRO, YOU NEED TO PAY BETTER ATTENTION WHEN RATH IS ON-SCREEN OR ELSE RATH WILL PUT HIS FEET ON YOUR FACE!