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नहीं II knew it! You are indian!
Ha, Tum indian hoनहीं I
नहीं मैं नहीं हूँ IHa, Tum indian ho
Ha, Tum ho!!नहीं मैं नहीं हूँ I
Ukam cunjeHa, Tum ho!!
Me tooUkam cunje
Like I said this question isn’t really for powerscaling (I don’t think his exact origins change anything about the scaling), but personally I just think Chronians being mutant humans fixes every plot-hole caused by the “retcon”. It explains why he cared about the Chronians, why he called himself a Chronian, how he got his powers (as making him just human means his powers are left unexplained) and also how he was able to make Ben transform into him in the first place (correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t the Omnitrix not allow the user to transform into their own species?).I don't have much to say...
Honestly at this point trying to stick to RAT is kinda the issue here, like I think if you assumed the movie happened in broad strokes and just follow Eon's story from OV to UA seems more logical...or something, I'm just rambling and saying whatever.
That’s a pretty cool concept.But speaking of Eon, I saw one concept that I like a lot in that the Ben of Gwen 10 universe becomes a good version of Eon and develops Chronian powers instead of Anodite power.
Actually now that I think about it, with enough inconsistencies some people could probably argue that it invalidates any scaling between movie Eon and show Eon. Figuring out how we should sort out Eon’s canonicity is probably a good idea.Like I said this question isn’t really for powerscaling (I don’t think his exact origins change anything about the scaling)
Bakugan>>WHY DOESN'T ANYONE COME TO THE CRT I OPENED, AREN'T YOU A BEN 10 FAN?
Dayum.. I have no words. The award for the best analysis goes to you, milady.OK so after looking through a transcript (as I can’t find any clips of it online), here’s the full speech that the “You are me, Benjamin” line comes from:
- Eon: Have you ever wondered why the Omnitrix only allows you to change for 10 minutes at a time?
- Ben: Sure. Unfortunately, I lost the instruction manual.
- Eon: It’s a fail-safe so that the DNA of the alien life-forms trapped within the Omnitrix don’t overwhelm you when they take you over... a fail-safe that can be easily overridden if one knows the Omnitrix as intimately as I do. I came here on a desperate mission to rescue my people.
- Ben: Yeah, rescue them by taking over our world.
- Eon: We were a gilded race of warriors. We'd mastered the elements -- gods who grew too strong and destroyed ourselves. With the Hands of Armageddon, we could be reborn on Earth, but in order to do that, I needed to find you.
- Ben: what are you talking about?
- Eon: You kept this secret even from your own blood. You are the reason I came back two centuries ago and again countless times. My body grew weaker and weaker with each leap through time. I was looking for you, Benjamin, the boy with the Omnitrix.
- Ben: You knew?
- Max: We hoped you'd never find out, that this day would never come.
- Ben: Why me?
- Eon: Ah. It’s my DNA that will be released from the Omnitrix. I am the alien life-form that will soon overwhelm you. You are me, Benjamin.
- Ben: No, you're lying!
- Eon: My time is almost over. But I will be reborn in you and have great strength and power at the Hands of Armageddon and open a time rift to my dying world, bringing an end to yours. You will no longer be a simple, helpless child, but a god -- not for mere moments, but for an eternity.
Now from what I see, the “You are me, Benjamin” line could go either way. Based on the context of what he just said prior it could just be referring to Ben eventually becoming him, however him using the present tense and Ben accusing him of lying implies that Eon is actually saying he is Ben here. He also mentions being very intimate with the knowledge of the Omnitrix, which wouldn’t make much sense unless he had one himself. Of course with the benefit of hindsight we can easily say that these were hints that he’s an alternate version of Ben all along, however deciding on the original intention might still be important.
Something else interesting to me though is how he describes himself and his race. He continuously calls the Chronians “gods who grew too strong” and stuff of the like, suggesting that his full power really could be Way Big tier or more like the Hands of Armaggedon argument implies. While we obviously don’t know Eon’s past, we do know he had an Omnitrix at some point and most likely knows about Way Big level characters anyway from his ventures across time. I think this might be enough to make him “likely High 5-A” instead of just “possibly High 5-A”.
I feel that would be enough for Tier 4, but it probably be an outlier for Eon.OK so after looking through a transcript (as I can’t find any clips of it online), here’s the full speech that the “You are me, Benjamin” line comes from:
- Eon: Have you ever wondered why the Omnitrix only allows you to change for 10 minutes at a time?
- Ben: Sure. Unfortunately, I lost the instruction manual.
- Eon: It’s a fail-safe so that the DNA of the alien life-forms trapped within the Omnitrix don’t overwhelm you when they take you over... a fail-safe that can be easily overridden if one knows the Omnitrix as intimately as I do. I came here on a desperate mission to rescue my people.
- Ben: Yeah, rescue them by taking over our world.
- Eon: We were a gilded race of warriors. We'd mastered the elements -- gods who grew too strong and destroyed ourselves. With the Hands of Armageddon, we could be reborn on Earth, but in order to do that, I needed to find you.
- Ben: what are you talking about?
- Eon: You kept this secret even from your own blood. You are the reason I came back two centuries ago and again countless times. My body grew weaker and weaker with each leap through time. I was looking for you, Benjamin, the boy with the Omnitrix.
- Ben: You knew?
- Max: We hoped you'd never find out, that this day would never come.
- Ben: Why me?
- Eon: Ah. It’s my DNA that will be released from the Omnitrix. I am the alien life-form that will soon overwhelm you. You are me, Benjamin.
- Ben: No, you're lying!
- Eon: My time is almost over. But I will be reborn in you and have great strength and power at the Hands of Armageddon and open a time rift to my dying world, bringing an end to yours. You will no longer be a simple, helpless child, but a god -- not for mere moments, but for an eternity.
Now from what I see, the “You are me, Benjamin” line could go either way. Based on the context of what he just said prior it could just be referring to Ben eventually becoming him, however him using the present tense and Ben accusing him of lying implies that Eon is actually saying he is Ben here. He also mentions being very intimate with the knowledge of the Omnitrix, which wouldn’t make much sense unless he had one himself. Of course with the benefit of hindsight we can easily say that these were hints that he’s an alternate version of Ben all along, however deciding on the original intention might still be important.
Something else interesting to me though is how he describes himself and his race. He continuously calls the Chronians “gods who grew too strong” and stuff of the like, suggesting that his full power really could be Way Big tier or more like the Hands of Armaggedon argument implies. While we obviously don’t know Eon’s past, we do know he had an Omnitrix at some point and most likely knows about Way Big level characters anyway from his ventures across time. I think this might be enough to make him “likely High 5-A” instead of just “possibly High 5-A”.
Tbh I had the opposite thoughts. Prime Eon being Tier 4 wouldn’t necessarily be an outlier as he scales to no-one in RAT, and since Eon was very close to having timeline altering power in UA he should’ve been way higher than Tier 4 then regardless. My issue is that the strength statements are a bit too vague on their own, so I imagine at best they’d just support a “High 5-A, possibly/likely higher” rating for Prime Eon or something like that.I feel that would be enough for Tier 4, but it probably be an outlier for Eon.
Yeah. Aside from that it does look like earth.am I stupid
Replace the "static"s with "vignette"s in the URLs next time, but anyway I think the reason why they're so pixelated is because they're so smallIt’s a shame this image on the Ben 10 wiki is super pixelated, would’ve been a good image for his clone since it’s a full-body render. Eon wears the same outfit across the entire movie though so I think we just need one image with a good enough view of his design. This image should work fine enough assuming I get a good shot for one of his other appearances.
Nah, you have done it. Taking retirement from being a nice person.Low 5-B is kil (well, kinda): https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-low-5-b-downgrade-reinterpretation.166856/
By being the peak of their species and since every normal aliens scale to the Armodrillo feat, it's a given for everyone of Ben's aliens (except for nanomech and grey matter)How do the classic series aliens upscale from Armadrillo?
N word- RVR'd fr.Snip
Lol was just kidding
Lol was just kidding
Ultimate Aggregor is already Low 5-B on his profile, not sure why he’s only 5-C on the verse page. True about OV Kevin 11 though, if my downgrade doesn’t pass through then whoever edits Kevin’s profile next should fix that.BTW, Ultimate Agreggor should be Low 5-B in his low end since he's 434 exattons while the baseline for Low 5-B is 433 exattons and Omniverse Kevin 11 should be Low 5-B+ since he passed the 29 Zettatons threshold which is Low 5-B+...granted if the recent downgrade passes it won't matter anymore.
Mechamorphs can separate their body parts into being and non being.Y’know I wonder what happened to the Mechamorphs that merged into the rock that turned into the Helix Tower. Like are they permanently just the Helix Tower now, or did they somehow separate without causing the rock to de-upgrade? The former is more likely based on how their powers are shown to work, but it’s a little funny that they’re just stuck there forever.
It shows that waybig can take on entire armada of Humungousaur, can also of UA Humungousaur but significant numbers might can overpower him. Which seems consistent as per show stuff.
It looks good ngl.