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Refer to the title please.
The purpose of this thread is simply to continue off from this one. to address something that was left unresolved So no, this thread is not to address Alien X as I said I would be making soon at some point, it's to finish up this previous thread. And yes, im making a quick continuation thread to address this. I specifically requested that the other thread be opened for me to voice the unresolved problem(s) that were left to tie up, and I saw just now that it got closed again before I got the opportunity to voice them. So it's better to do it like this rather than request the old thread to be opened a second time.
Anyway, i'll give a quick recap. The former thread was to downgrade the Ben 10 Cosmology for a number of different reasons, ones you can see by reading through the thread I linked here. After a large discussion, it was agreed by majority to have the regular Ben 10 Multiverse remain at 2-A via the timestream being stated infinite. After that, the discussion then changed to discussing whether each individual universe in the multiverse should also be considered 2-A or not. Most staff have seemingly agreed on letting each universe stay at Possibly 2-A. That's what got the previous thread closed. So the thread looks pretty much finished right? Except, that's not entirely true.
Determining what tier to put the universes at was only ONE of the things left that needed to be discussed, and that's because there's still the on-going problem on whether or not these 2-A dimensions are even agreed on being inside the universe in the first place. The thread got closed before we had a consensus on this, it was only agreed that the number of them could be Possibly 2-A. But, that's not going to matter if these said number of dimensions are not actually residing inside of the universes, which we still need to discuss. And yes, this was still in discussion. @Eficiente had given plenty of arguments against the universes containing these dimensions, and was in the middle of giving more arguments, before being able to continue as the thread got closed up.
@DontTalkDT, one of the staff members we waited on to give feedback to break this deadlock, very clearly even expressed in his answer that 2-A Universes depends on the context.
Honestly, this arguably doesn't even look like agreeing with 2-A universes, as opposed to just answering from a neutral side, but im not wasting everyone's time arguing technicalities
TL;DR
The thread shouldn't have gotten closed just yet. Yes, more people found Possibly 2-A to be a reasonable tier, but that was only one of the things left to determine by the end of that thread. Whether or not these 2-A dimensions actually reside inside of the universe was something else to still be discussed and determined, but the thread got closed simply because people sided more with 2-A.
Here was the staff vote tally for 2-A from the last thread:
Single Universe is 2A: @DarkDragonMedeus , @DontTalkDT , @Firestorm808 , @Lonkitt , @Sir_Ovens , @Dereck03
Disagree with Universe being 2A: @Eficiente , @Maverick_Zero_X , @Everything12 , @GyroNutz
This thread is to knock the latter problem out.
The purpose of this thread is simply to continue off from this one. to address something that was left unresolved So no, this thread is not to address Alien X as I said I would be making soon at some point, it's to finish up this previous thread. And yes, im making a quick continuation thread to address this. I specifically requested that the other thread be opened for me to voice the unresolved problem(s) that were left to tie up, and I saw just now that it got closed again before I got the opportunity to voice them. So it's better to do it like this rather than request the old thread to be opened a second time.
Anyway, i'll give a quick recap. The former thread was to downgrade the Ben 10 Cosmology for a number of different reasons, ones you can see by reading through the thread I linked here. After a large discussion, it was agreed by majority to have the regular Ben 10 Multiverse remain at 2-A via the timestream being stated infinite. After that, the discussion then changed to discussing whether each individual universe in the multiverse should also be considered 2-A or not. Most staff have seemingly agreed on letting each universe stay at Possibly 2-A. That's what got the previous thread closed. So the thread looks pretty much finished right? Except, that's not entirely true.
Determining what tier to put the universes at was only ONE of the things left that needed to be discussed, and that's because there's still the on-going problem on whether or not these 2-A dimensions are even agreed on being inside the universe in the first place. The thread got closed before we had a consensus on this, it was only agreed that the number of them could be Possibly 2-A. But, that's not going to matter if these said number of dimensions are not actually residing inside of the universes, which we still need to discuss. And yes, this was still in discussion. @Eficiente had given plenty of arguments against the universes containing these dimensions, and was in the middle of giving more arguments, before being able to continue as the thread got closed up.
@DontTalkDT, one of the staff members we waited on to give feedback to break this deadlock, very clearly even expressed in his answer that 2-A Universes depends on the context.
Honestly, this arguably doesn't even look like agreeing with 2-A universes, as opposed to just answering from a neutral side, but im not wasting everyone's time arguing technicalities
TL;DR
The thread shouldn't have gotten closed just yet. Yes, more people found Possibly 2-A to be a reasonable tier, but that was only one of the things left to determine by the end of that thread. Whether or not these 2-A dimensions actually reside inside of the universe was something else to still be discussed and determined, but the thread got closed simply because people sided more with 2-A.
Here was the staff vote tally for 2-A from the last thread:
Single Universe is 2A: @DarkDragonMedeus , @DontTalkDT , @Firestorm808 , @Lonkitt , @Sir_Ovens , @Dereck03
Disagree with Universe being 2A: @Eficiente , @Maverick_Zero_X , @Everything12 , @GyroNutz
This thread is to knock the latter problem out.
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