Bayonetta Discussion Thread

[Comicgyal]

Oh yeah, since we buffed Rodin to low multi, bayo should be too since she fought him in his true form twice

 

[Comicgyal]

Kinda realizing how controversial this thread is gonna be.. the scaling for their base forms is so high

 

[WeeklyBattles]

This is kinda why i was saying that it would only be Bayo 2 base as the fight against Father Roin canonically happens after the end of the first game

 

[Comicgyal]

Is that so? You can fight father Rodin at any point in bayo 1 once you get the right amount of halos, nor is there any indication that she’s using the right eye

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oh wait no i was thinking of his demon form where its not a secret boss it just doesnt bcome available to fight until late in Bayonetta 2

 

[Comicgyal]

Yeah, she fights his angel form. It would essentially mean
Base bayo - universal in bayo 1
Base bayo - Universe level - low multi in bayo 2

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

I don't understand why we have demon Rodin at low multi but we have angel Rodin at only universal. I need to go to sleep right about now so I can't go over it right now though.

 

[Comicgyal]

I believe it’s because angel Rodin is said to be a bit weaker than jubileus, but demon Rodin is said to be the strongest demon in inferno— making him stronger than Sheba who is low multi.

 

[Comicgyal]

Also should I bring up tag climax, and how they run through time there? Or just strictly story. This is for immeasurable speed stuff

 

[Comicgyal]

If the Bayonetta universe is a 6-D infinite multiverse, wouldn’t manipulate said verse make a character 1-C? Or is that 2-A?

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

2-A is just a countably infinite amount of space-time continuums.

 

[Comicgyal]

Now that I think about, angel Rodin should get the same scaling as his demon form

 

[Comicgyal]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/mini-bayonetta-verse-upgrades.111209/

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Rodin in his angel form is only slightly below Jubilieus (unspecified whether this is referring to full power or weakened)
Rodin in his demon form is described as the strongest demon in inferno above even Sheba (unspecified whether or not this is referring to full power or weakened)

that would maybe make the scaling chart look something like:

Rodin > full power Sheba = full power Jubileus =< Omne >= Aesir
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Jeanne << Balder = Bayo >--------/ OR
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Rodin =< weakened jub = weakened sheba

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

that didnt format the way I wanted.

 

[Comicgyal]

True, but Rodin was kicked from paradiso because he was too strong.. it is unsure whether it’s full power or not, but he’s still around the ballpark.

I understand your chart though, and I agree.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

There's simply no way to know which key of Jub or Sheba rodin scales to. He scales very closely to both of them but we just don't know which key.

 

[Comicgyal]

True. I think the recent Crt will go well.

 

[Comicgyal]

Currently going through old Bayo threads to say what she used to have. Wanted to know if anything was taken away, that can be added back.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Im curious if bayo's ability to create weapons from her hair using torture attacks was ever added

 

[Comicgyal]

It probably wouldn’t get approved, since the ingame description says she summons them from inferno

They’re the weapons used to punish witches, which.. is pretty harsh when you think about it

 

[Comicgyal]

Oh but I should upgrade the fodder angels again soon, imagine thinking they’re 6-A fodder..

I mean they’re still fodder, but like not the 6-A kind

 

[Comicgyal]

Oh she used to have time paradox immunity? Can anyone link me to that vs battle page? We can get it back for her, I just need to read all of the details

 

[Comicgyal]

Reading the bayo 1 art book, Rodin is literally called the “pimp” of paradiso, and the strongest character in the verse at the time. So.. yeah

 

[Comicgyal]

YOO THESE FEATS ARE WILD

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Scans?

 

[Comicgyal]

Hol up

 

[Comicgyal]

Witches casually harnessing the power of a universal object.

Universe again LOL

Three main universes, with one inside. Debunks any “it all used to be one universe” bs

 

[Comicgyal]

Thoughts ?

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

I'm finding it a bit difficult to read. Could you directly type the important stuff there please.

 

[Comicgyal]

Sure
Climax Brace : “A mysterious item in the shape of the infinity symbol, containing the power of the universe itself, has the same design style as the in game objects that affect time”

Sand of time item:
“The sand looks like galaxies”
“You can see the universe inside the glass”

last one is just a picture of the three realities, and the circle between, confirmed that’s a universe.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

I'm not really interested in pics in the last scan since we already have much clearer imagery of the trinity in-game. Statements are more important rn.

 

[Comicgyal]

Yeah, most people didn’t know that the inside was a universe as well, the book just confirms that.

Anyways the statements above are nice.

 

[Comicgyal]

Yooo shuraba cuts through space??

probs not but still super cool to look at

 

[BayonettaxMinaj]

Hey everyone

 

[BayonettaxMinaj]

Bayonetta being able to casually lift the Sands of Time & world the Climax Brace would give her Universal/Galaxy-Level lifting strength right?

 

[BayonettaxMinaj]

Am I the only one aware of Bayonetta’s Low-Godly healing factor & Self Resurrection?

 

[BayonettaxMinaj]

Bout to got to bed but long story short, as long as the Umbra Watch remains intact and in contact with the witch’s soul they can resurrect themselves. Rodin explains this in the prologue of the sequel.

 

[BayonettaxMinaj]

More tea to come later

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

That's not really low-godly regen. Low-godly requires the full destruction of the physical body. A witch needs the body intact to be resurrected which would not qualify.

Its not even combat applicable anyways since their soul automatically gets BFRed to inferno.