Baul & Modeus

[PrettyFearMachine]

These two are currently listed at High 7-C and 6-A. The problem is that I don't like the justifications for both of them.

I mean, here's Baul's reasoning for High 7-C rating:

Large Town level (Performed better than Nero against a not serious Dante)

And here's for 6-A:

Continent level (Is considered a high ranking Hell Lord similar to Abigail though much weaker. His brother's skull was one of the relics used to unseal Abigail)

There are several problems with this:

1. Characters do not scale from casuals (This is the conclusion I came to at Akame ga Kill CRT).

2. DMC:TAS Dante is significantly weaker than DMC4 Dante (Nero fought the latter).

3. The extent to which Baul is weaker than Abigail is unknown, so putting him at 6-A is a bit of a stretch.

So basically, these two scale from no one and nothing.

My suggestion is to find other feats they would scale to, or remove the profiles otherwise.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Bump

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Bump

 

[Sparda_20000000]

They would be stronger the the temen ni gru guardians and mundus's generals

Griffon caused a strom over the island maybe we get a calculation on it

However we don't know how fight with modeus played out we know that he was stronger of the two and if Dante was serious during the fight

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I don't remember anything implying the storm occurred across the whole Mallet Island, but I don't think it would be too farfetched to assume things this way unless the results are not going to be nonsenscial

 

[Dark649]

They were trained by Sparda, i do not think they should be that weaker than Dante even if he stomped them.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Was it implied that they got stronger during the training?

 

[Dark649]

Yes, Sparda even left his power and will in the hands of Modeus, through that is very iffy.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

And I think the same could be said about Nero (about "should not be that weaker" part), who might possibly be 6-A as well, but we consider it too vague

EDIT: Didn't get the reply in time, sorry. I still think that they should not be 6-A with unquantifiable portion of Sparda's power.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

And even if Baul & Modeus are 6-A, then I see no issue with Nero and Sanctus having the same rating

 

[Dark649]

For Nero it is better to wait for DMC5.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

A few months feel like an eternity to me

 

[Dark649]

You should ask to Matthew, i'm sure he can give a better response about these.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

Plus we don't know how Dante and modeus's fight played out

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

But anyway, IMO 6-A for B&M is a bit of a stretch

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I agree with Rebubble.

 

[Dark649]

Well at this point i personally think Nero is better than them, so Unknown, at least High 7-C, likely higher or we delete them Matt.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I'm neutral about both "Unknown" ratings and the profiles' removal

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

As of their High 7-C keys, I think they should be changed to "Unknow".

And their 6-A versions should be "At least High 7-C, likely higher"

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Bump

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

What should we do with the profiles?

 

[Dark649]

What should we do with the profiles?

I will later downgrade them.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Okay. I think this thread can be closed in case if everything has been settled