Battle of the Strongest 8-C's

[Celestial_Pegasus]

All are 8-C, and speed is equalized of course.

• Hatchworth
• The Awake
• Yakagi Suimei
• Randall Flagg

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Following for now. I've got something to do IRL, but I'll be back to leave my thoughts soon enough.

 

[PaChi2]

Are those abilities in The godwoken's 8-C key?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

These are his abilities i think: " Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Energy Manipulation and Projection, Magic, Elemental Manipulation, Status Effect Inducement, Breath Attack via Dragon's Blaze, Electricity Manipulation via various Aerotheurge skills, Light Manipulation via Blinding Radiance, Teleportation (Both of self and others), Statistics Amplification (Can increase speed, power, and other important statistics), Acid Manipulation via Corrosive Touch and Spray, Poison Manipulation via various Geomancer skills, Earth Manipulation via various Geomancer Skills, Summoning via various Geomancer and Summoning skills, Healing via various Hydrosophist skills, Necromancy via Bone Widow and Raise Bloated Corpse, Biological Manipulation via Infect (Can infect a target with a virulent virus capable of severely crippling a target), Transformation via various Polymorph skills, Flight via Spread Your Wings, Invisibility via Chameleon Cloak, Transmutation via Chicken Claw, Fire Manipulation via various Pyrokinetic skills, Water Manipulation via various Hydrosophist skills, Ice Manipulationvia various Hydrosophist skills, Life Absorption via Necromancy (All attacks will steal life away from the target and heal the user depending upon how strong the user's necromancy is), Blood Manipulation via Blood Sucker, Sleep Manipulation via Chloroform, Fate Manipulation via Soul Mate and Shackles of Pain (These attacks will cause all positive effects on the target to be given to the user, and all negative effects on the user to be given to the target), Mind Control via Dominate Mind, Mind Manipulation via Maddening Song and Provoke (Can cause a target to become insane and attack everything aimlessly), Sound Manipulation via Deafening Shriek and Maddening Song, Petrification via Petrifying Touch and Medusa's head, Possibly Time Stop or Time Manipulation via Time Warp (Bends time around the user, allowing the user to gain another turn), Can remove all status effects from them via Break The Shackles, Fortification, and Peace of Mind, Attack Reflection via Deflective Barrier (Turns around all projectiles back to the user), Resurrection via Resurrection (Only on allies; will not work on the user), Temporary Immortality (Type 2) via Living on the Edge, Berserk Mode via Death Wish (Will become stronger the more wounded the user is), Fear Manipulation via Terrifying Cruelty, Resistance to Magic-based impairments and Status Ailments as long as his armor is in-tact "

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Yeah, the Godwoken is good in 8-C, but without his potent source manip and deletion, he lacks the threatening kill options that make him so deadly.

He is a strong RPG character at base, but it isn't enough to compete with guys like Randall.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

So Woke Dude #1 is gone.

We can also kinda-sorta discount Flagg, since I just remembered he's currently stalemating Magnus from SPN.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Ok, so now we are down to 4 people then.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hatchy boi broadway forces everyone

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Magnus could technically qualify for this list, actually. He seems really powerful and versatile for an 8-C, and even though he's stalemating Flagg, it's due to both of them having a million ways to one-shot each other.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Hatchy boi broadway forces everyone

By that logic, Flagg says the word "Sleep" and everyone sans maybe one person winds up knocked out.

Or he says "Kill yourselves" and basically achieves the same effect for most of these people.

But he'd probably go with "Sleep".

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hatchworth is literally incapable of sleep

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

How?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He's a robot

There's even a part in the song 'Brass Goggles' where they acknowledge that they exist for things that theyre incapable of experiencing, such as sleep and feelings

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Actually wait. There are literally only three people here besides him, so he wouldn't even bother with commands. He'd just do this:

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Which Hatch would recover from by having himself from the future or past take his place

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Curious, what does bradway force do?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Broadway Force

Basically, the character with Broadway Force plays a musical number and everyone is compelled to join in. Hatch's (And everyone in SPG in general) is especially potent in that he can manipulate the plot of his songs directly, like in the battle against the Space Giant where they literally manipulated the plot so that the Space Giant ceased to exist.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

I knew what broadway force is, just not how potent hatchworth's is, but yea that's pretty broken...

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Which Hatch would recover from by having himself from the future or past take his place

By which point Flagg will have read his mind and memories (he does this to everyone he can, including people who are supposed to be on his side, like Eldred Jonas), and will have afterwards A) prepared himself to use a spell to incapacitate this past/future version, or B) prepared himself to teleport a few dozen kilometers away before the new version can get there, depending on what he finds in his head. It's also likely that he will have already read everyone's mind (sans Suimei's) prior to transmuting them. A man had barely walked into the same room as him, and Flagg managed to read a nunber of his thoughts right away.

Also, does the past/future Hatchworth just automatically know when his past self has been put in danger without having been told beforehand?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He can read the mind and memories of robots? Also Hatchworth can and has made an infinite number of copies of himself by causing a time paradox. And he can summon this guy

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

If he's incapable of getting into Hatchworth's mind the first time around, turning him into a dog will change that. Even the most rudimentary DT psychic would be able to read the mind of an animal (we see it happen, even), and in a fight against something that he would see as being Old Ones tech without the magical enhancements, he'd most likely see the threat in leaving things to chance.

And I'm still wondering whether or not his his past/future selves have any way of knowing what's happened to his present self once it's come to pass. Or whether or not he'll be capable of doing anything to warn them (or indeed, doing anything at all) if his form has been changed to that of a powerless animal. If neither are the case, then the match is over as soon as Flagg moves his hand.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

And whats stopping Hatch from singing Randall into not existing anymore?

Yes, they can.