Yes he can, he can see ghost + abstract beings such as people in magicant, his nightmare, and Giygas. So seeing Personas would be rather easy for him.
Resistances and Affinities: Resistance to Fate Manipulation and Causality Manipulation (as the Trickster, Ren is unaffected by the predetermined fates that exist within the Persona verse, which binds even Type 4 Acausals), Cognition (the Phantom Thieves' wills of rebellion serve as protection against the effects of Cognition). Depending on the equipped Persona, Resistance, Invulnerability, Reflection and/or Absorption of: Fire, Ice, Lightning, Wind, Radiation, Explosion, Psychokinetic, Energy, Holy, Light, Curse, Darkness and Death Manipulation.
His fate hax resistance is nowhere near the same level also Truth already bypasses type 4 aca so this is not really a good resistance.
HDE =/= the range from what I can tell on the wiki's standards. Ren has no universal range listed on his profile so he can't reach Ness.
Since this is fun and games and because how stupidly outdated Ness's profile is, does Ren have any solutions of getting pass Conceptual Absorption or any 4-D PSI abilities? Fate hax absolutely crushes Ren's resistances to my knowledge as they aren't to the scale of the TOTU, who encompasses all possibilities (as it exist as a Wave Function) and is able to protect beings that are outside of the EarthBound's Cosmology. This also allows Ness to win regardless of the action Ren takes, even if it serves as an advantage towards himself. And even if Ren kills or incaps Ness, Truth would negate it under its own perspective of reality, where it ultimately turns everything into a dream within Ness's viewing; allowing him to win if he were to mess up.
Erm well, I didn't really place a vote yet. I was just saying the stuff Ness has. I'm certain Persona supporters have a thing up their sleeves, so I'm gonna wait to hear what they have to say.
Ness FRA too
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I thought it would only do that if Ness were killed though? iirc, Ness can still be incapped through other means
Nope, it works for incap as well. If all of your party members are inflicted with the diamondized/and Paralysis status effect, the game treats it as a game over (Although the latter comes from Mother 1, but since Ninten and Ness have the same game over screen, it would still apply). However, the event that played out in Threed (where Ness and Paula get knocked out by gangs of Zombies and thrown into a deep hole where they can't escape at all) was meant to play out so they can contact Jeff. Essentially, it was supposed to happen in order to progress their journey. This in itself wouldn't mean this is the "drawback" to fate hax despite getting hurt, as it acted as a way to help the Chosen Four achieve victory over Giygas by any means necessary. Aside from that, their battles get reverted should anything bad happen to them. Including getting KO, incapped, and Death. Although curious, could you elaborate on the "Can be incapped through other means"? Nothing comes to mind in game when you say that.
You both would be incorrect.
