Battle for the strongest 8-C

[Zamasu_Chan]

They can't physically touch Alex because he has Elizabeth Greene's powers where she infects everything she touches. Plus He has thermal vision.

 

[Planck69]

They can't physically touch Alex because he has Elizabeth Greene's powers where she infects everything she touches. Plus He has thermal vision.

Culexus doesn't need to when just standing around GGs. And Culexus phasing out of existence lolnopes thermal vision.

 

[Eganergo]

Um, thermal vision won't help him though?

Culexus invisibility is kinda op too that none of other psyker can see him in plain sight with their super duper supernatural vision.

@Planck

Just a note that yes it is his first move and Bouichirou project his thought to the world not to objects or characters. He can too, but...

 

[FanSyst]

"...the Etherium also renders the Culexus Assassin nearly impossible to detect, whether by conventional senses or via complex mechanical sensors. For this reason, the advance of the Culexus is more of a relentless prowl than a headlong rush, as the Assassin stalks towards the target with the inevitability of death itself. A Culexus can stand in the very same room as his target yet remain hidden, his victims feeling only a mounting sense of unease, and glimpsing nothing but phantoms haunting their peripheral vision."

Alex can at least spot Culexus?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

>Strongest 8-C

>Knack isnt involved

 

[Planck69]

"...the Etherium also renders the Culexus Assassin nearly impossible to detect, whether by conventional senses or via complex mechanical sensors. For this reason, the advance of the Culexus is more of a relentless prowl than a headlong rush, as the Assassin stalks towards the target with the inevitability of death itself. A Culexus can stand in the very same room as his target yet remain hidden, his victims feeling only a mounting sense of unease, and glimpsing nothing but phantoms haunting their peripheral vision."
Alex can at least spot Culexus?

....No? Especially when he's shown to be invisible to dudes that can see invisible people as well as people with enhanced senses.

 

[Kwonto96]

>Strongest 8-C
>Knack isnt involved

Knack 2 baby!

 

[00potato]

Knack 2 baby!

KNACK 3 BABY!

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Knack 2 baby!

KNACK 3 BABY!

KNACK 4 BABY!

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Planck69
my dude what you are talking about is the null aura that effect soul possessing races of the galaxy, the culexus assasins are what is reffered to as Pariahs/blanks beings with no warp presence at all and the line in their profile explains it best.

"All Culexus Assassins are born with the Pariah Gene, an incredibly rare genetic defect that means, unlike all other sentient beings, the Assassin lacks any presence in the Warp whatsoever, making him effectively soulless. This trait is believed to have been inserted into humanity's ancestors countless years ago by the C'tan as an anti-psyker weapon, and the effect shows. Even to a regular person, being around a psychic blank is an uncomfortable and painful experience that can never be forgotten. However, to a psyker, the experience is unfathomably worse, as the psyker experiences unspeakable pain, mental anguish, and horrors they cannot fully comprehend"

and seeing as mercer has no soul and thus no presence in the warp the mind hax wouldn't even effect him.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

also why is this a fight you are placing a culexus assassin against what amounts to as its perfect counter a being without a soul and multiple one shot hax

 

[Planck69]

my dude what you are talking about is the null aura that effect soul possessing races of the galaxy, the culexus assasins are what is reffered to as Pariahs/blanks beings with no warp presence at all and the line in their profile explains it best.

"All Culexus Assassins are born with the Pariah Gene, an incredibly rare genetic defect that means, unlike all other sentient beings, the Assassin lacks any presence in the Warp whatsoever, making him effectively soulless. This trait is believed to have been inserted into humanity's ancestors countless years ago by the C'tan as an anti-psyker weapon, and the effect shows. Even to a regular person, being around a psychic blank is an uncomfortable and painful experience that can never be forgotten. However, to a psyker, the experience is unfathomably worse, as the psyker experiences unspeakable pain, mental anguish, and horrors they cannot fully comprehend"

and seeing as mercer has no soul and thus no presence in the warp the mind hax would even effect him.

Again, the Tau have a negligible presence in the Warp, yet the passive mind-hax still screwed them over and gave them seizures. The power null was irrelevant from the start of the match.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Again, the Tau have a negligible presence in the Warp, yet the passive mind-hax still screwed them over and gave them seizures. The power null was irrelevant from the start of the match.

they still have souls which gives them a presence in the warp even if a small one

mercer ain't got a soul so he is absent from the warp

plus stop quating huge walls of text please

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

It wasnt a huge wall of text

 

[PhantomØ4]

Slightly big walls of text.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Maybe its because Im on mobile, but it doesnt seem big at all Ò⢴╝ê´Òâ╝´¢Ç）Ôöî

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

they still have souls which gives them a presence in the warp even if a small one

mercer ain't got a soul so he is absent from the warp

plus stop quating huge walls of text please

Agreed.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Ok, I'm curious, why doesn't Alex have a soul? Because he's a virus?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

yes and an undead.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

He's a virus controlling a corpse.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

He still possesses a consciousness and mind, correct?

 

[Kwonto96]

That's like saying Alex Mercer can beat ghost rider.Just because he doesn't have a soul.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Sure?

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Then a psyk-out grenade can still drop him.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

not entirely prototype 1 is based on Alex looking for the reason what happened to him and who he is, so I don't think.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

That's like saying Alex Mercer can beat ghost rider.Just because he doesn't have a soul.

I never claimed Alex could beat Ghost Rider. Ghost Rider smacks Mercer.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

That's like saying Alex Mercer can beat ghost rider.Just because he doesn't have a soul.

ghost riders hax aren't all soul based plus he is 7A

mercer by the sheer fact that he has immunity to soul manip(through not heavy a soul) nullfies all the hax of the culexus since all of them are based on soul manip via being a blank, exept the dimensional shift which will help him survive for longer

 

[Planck69]

ghost riders hax aren't all soul based plus he is 7A

mercer by the sheer fact that he has immunity to soul manip(through not heavy a soul) nullfies all the hax of the culexus since all of them are based on soul manip via being a blank, exept the dimensional shift which will help him survive for longer

You do know that he also has passive mind-hax and mind-hax grenades right?

 

[Sir_sun_man]

C2 of Omegon
Im not sure a psy granades will work since they also work through the way of soul manip

"Psyk-out Grenades are effective on normal beings, and even more effective on abnormal ones. Sentient beings who do not make use of psychic or magical powers will simply lose conscious thought, making them easy targets. However, for those that make use of reality-bending abilities, the negative psychic energy from the grenades will cause their powers and abilities to fundamentally collapse and implode, destroying them from deep within their very soul all the way to their physical form"

The psy granade works thrhough the resedue of the golden throne and thus the power of the emperor which is full on soul based psykic bullshitery

and even if it effects mercer i dought it would even knock him out since he has type 2 immortality that allows him to move think and act while missing most of his brai. Knocking him out is quite an unlikely event if its even possible in the first place.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

You do know that he also has passive mind-hax and mind-hax grenades right?

which are ageing soul based though their nature as blanks

 

[Uniasha]

ghost riders hax aren't all soul based plus he is 7A

mercer by the sheer fact that he has immunity to soul manip(through not heavy a soul) nullfies all the hax of the culexus since all of them are based on soul manip via being a blank, exept the dimensional shift which will help him survive for longer

You do know that he also has passive mind-hax and mind-hax grenades right?

as if a virus can be mind haxxed

 

[Sir_sun_man]

as if a virus can be mind haxxed

it can but not trhough how culexus assasins do it

although not even gona lie culexus don't have mind manip as they just cause seizures and extreme mental paint trhough their presence, they don't really control people they more so just destroy their minds by effecting their souls trhough their nature of being blanks

which wouldn't work on mr.no soul over here

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Mercer is legit like one of the hardest counters to Culexus I've ever seen myself. Aside from Knack, but we already saw how that went down.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Dude, you're looking at the wrong part. Stop focusing on the psychic powers and soul stuff. Psyk-out grenades knock out a target out, regardless of whether or not you have psychic powers. The grenade would make Alex incapable of forming conscious thought, allowing for incapication. He only needs an hour.

Type 2 Immortality doesn't stop that. Type 2 just means you can still function and live on in spite injuries without needing to heal. That's not going to stop Alex from literally not being able to form any thought.

 

[TheCrimsonEbonyCrawlingChaos]

ghost riders hax aren't all soul based plus he is 7A

mercer by the sheer fact that he has immunity to soul manip(through not heavy a soul) nullfies all the hax of the culexus since all of them are based on soul manip via being a blank, exept the dimensional shift which will help him survive for longer

Huh the justification that he has no soul makes not much sense when no one else has soul manipulation in the series. (Should probably be removed)

 

[Planck69]

He's stated to be a soulless virus. As for why the word of anyone in a verse that doesn't deal with souls is even usable, well that escapes me. Regardless, he's a good counter to the Culexus' null as he is. Though I wonder if Mercer's virus can affect him, considering that he's generally unaffected by the Warp and Nurgle's forces and power would fall under that.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Well, Nurgle's forces and their contagions spawn through the power of the Warp, so he hard counters that. The stuff that doesn't, that's what his suit is for. The synskin that makes up the Culexus suit insulates him from things like gases, fires, cold, chemical and can even slap away bolt rounds from Bolters.

So really, it's not about IF Mercer's virus can affect the Culexus, it's about him getting though the Culexus' suit.

 

[TheCrimsonEbonyCrawlingChaos]

Well I remember reading thread stating virus do have souls.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Well I remember reading thread stating virus do have souls.

I remember that there was a thread about whether or not we assume characters from verses that don't talk about such, have a soul or not and how to handle it. I'm currently trying to find it.

 

[Planck69]

That sounds ridiculous honestly. Several verses on the wiki would get resistance to soul-hax if just not mentioning souls is enough. Hell, I don't even know why we assume this for the real world and not for verses established in a representation of it, not as though they arbitrarily gain souls considering what they're based on.