Battle for the 5th strongest 8-C: D vs Noel

[ShivaShakti]

D vs Noel, both in their 8-C keys. Speed is equalized.

D:

Noel:

Inconclusive:

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Okay, so apparently she doesn't resist D's Empathic Hax going by the description, as D can Empathic Hax beings without emotions, mind or whatever

 

[Theglassman12]

She does resist Empathic hax.

 

[Theglassman12]

Not to mention her resistances are like far greater than normal Low 1-C.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Not to mention her resistances are like far greater than normal Low 1-C.

VHD Low 1-C can be argued as Infinite^infinite due to how possibilities in the AR works

 

[Theglassman12]

He doesn't even have the Akashic Records in this key tho.

 

[ShivaShakti]

He doesn't even have the Akashic Records in this key tho.

His passives and resistances scale.

 

[Theglassman12]

What makes them infinite^infinite?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

"Infinite^infinite" 5D does not exist

That would just straight up be High 1-B

And it sure as **** isn't here

 

[ShivaShakti]

"Infinite^infinite" 5D does not exist
That would just straight up be High 1-B

And it sure as **** isn't here

Really now? I was told not to put D up against SMT Low 1-Cs because apparently they were Infinite^Infinite.

 

[Theglassman12]

The SMT 2-As are Infinite^Infinite, there's no such scaling for the Low 1-Cs as far as I'm aware of

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

That's in relation to the old tiering system iirc, because literally everything that has been said about the new tiering system, when it's not technojargon at least, makes that level of whatever-dimensional impossible.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Well then how do we determine how high into Low 1-C someone is without them straight up getting a new tier? lol

 

[Theglassman12]

By feats. Going off from the Akashic Records profile Dante has, it looks like Baseline Low 1-C

 

[ShivaShakti]

By feats. Going off from the Akashic Records profile Dante has, it looks like Baseline Low 1-C

Where theres atleast two Low 1-C realms in the cosmology from what I remember. Will have to read over it again.

 

[Theglassman12]

That's just two times baseline Low 1-C if you're being generous.

 

[ShivaShakti]

That's just two times baseline Low 1-C if you're being generous.

How far is Noel?

 

[Theglassman12]

Countlessly above infinitely above baseline Low 1-C.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Countlessly above infinitely above baseline Low 1-C.

I thought we just said you cant be infinite times baseline.

 

[Theglassman12]

I said you can with feats. BlazBlue has feats that makes their hax far above baseline.

 

[ShivaShakti]

???

Even so like Hi3 said wouldnt that just be High 1-B?

 

[Theglassman12]

That's for transcending realms to an infinite^infinite stuff. SMT has a somewhat similar scaling chain to BB where some characters can body an infinite numbers of one god in the verse and some other demons and angels scale off from that.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

She does resist Empathic hax.

I know, but at "no emotions" level

D's Empathic Hax goes far beyond that, and considering they have the same tier, we need to look at feats

 

[ShivaShakti]

That's for transcending realms to an infinite^infinite stuff. SMT has a somewhat similar scaling chain to BB where some characters can body an infinite numbers of one god in the verse and some other demons and angels scale off from that.

D's AR being Infinite^Infinite isnt transcendence. It comes from the fact it can manifest that many possibilities with it's power, and make these possibilities their own reality.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Dante Empathic hax is a subset of mindhax, and every Blazblue character's mindhax resistance is like, infinitely above baseline.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Kira the possibilities that's mentioned for the Akashic Records are like 2-A given the statement, it has no affect on the Low 1-C scale because it transcending them all makes it meaningless.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

@Dante Empathic hax is a subset of mindhax, and every Blazblue character's mindhax resistance is like, infinitely above baseline.

Infinitely times baseline Low 1-C ?

 

[Theglassman12]

yes, thanks to the Embryo's feat of mindwiping an infinite number of a character that has Low 1-C resistance.