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battle cats feat discussion thread

火炎の精霊王メラバーニング (Kaen no Seirei-Ō Merabāningu, Flame Spirit King Melaburning)
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銀河をも灰にする強大な炎の力を手にした猛火の精霊
ビッグバンを超えるパワーはバリアを貫く力を持ち
エイリアンに打たれ強く、超ダメージを与える
EN Translation
An inferno spirit with the power of a mighty fire that reduces the galaxy to ash.
Power beyond the Big Bang has the power to penetrate Barriers.
Durable against Aliens and deals super damage to them.
pretty blatantly 3-A, nice
 
redundant but, mizuririn also has the power to destroy constellations most like
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星座をも洗い流す強大な力を手にした流水の精霊王
天の川を水源とする水柱はバリアを貫く力を持ち
エイリアンに打たれ強く、ふっとばして動きを遅くする
EN Translation
A flowing water spirit lord with a power mighty enough to wash away constellations.
Waterspouts derived from the Milky Way have the power to penetrate Barriers.
Tough against Aliens and slows them down.
 
ネコエクスプレス (Neko Ekusupuresu, Cat Express)
ネコ超特急 (Neko Chō Tokkyū, Cat Super Express)
ネコ特急 (Neko Tokkyū, Cat Limited Express)
Cat Unit # 284Super Rare Cat
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最高時速222km 1両編成 全席グリーン席
本日の乗車率は120%
敵を倒したときにお金を多くもらえる
EN Translation
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最高時速2222km 最新のテクノロジーと
222匹のネコを乗せたネコ型運搬装置
敵を倒したときにお金を多くもらえる
EN Translation
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最高速度2億kmで地球を飛び出せるスーパー電車
訓練を受けた乗客2222人が搭乗可能
敵を倒したときにお金を多くもらえる
EN Translation
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and said unit doesn't even have a translation on the wiki yet so uhhh
idk what to think
 
well at least filibuster has a vague possible universe bust statement
スターフィリバスター (Sutā Firibasutā, Star Filibuster)
Enemy Unit # 449Alien/Floating
Enemy icon 447.pngJP Script
星々の間を彷徨いながら
破壊を繰り返す謎の生命体。
その凄まじき超絶破壊力は
宇宙の構造すら書き換える。
EN Translation
A mysterious lifeform who causes repeated
destruction while roaming the stars.
Its unfathomable destructive power can
rewrite even the structure of the universe.
 
ok quick question
should the current bahamut profile be deleted or something? At this point he's basically featless and there doesn't seem to be a way to make him scale to stuff like orbital annihilater ragnaraok or anything of the sort without using game mechanics, which is just gonna make the wiki mad
 
for context
覚醒のネコムート (Kakusei no Nekomūto, Awakened Cathamut)
狂乱のネコムート (Kyōran no Nekomūto, Frenzy Cathamut)
ネコムート (Nekomūto, Cathamut)
Cat Unit # 25Special Cat
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かつて世界を滅ぼしたと伝えられる
伝説の超古代兵器
圧倒的な破壊力で敵を攻撃する(範囲攻撃)
EN Translation
Rumored to have destroyed the world.
An ultra ancient weapon of legend that
harnesses overwhelming amounts of destructive power (Area attack)
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かつて世界を滅ぼしたと伝えられる
超古代兵器の着ぐるみだったことが判明
それでも圧倒的な破壊力の攻撃はする(範囲攻撃)
EN Translation
The other form turned out to be a costume
for the real destroyer of the world.
Still harnesses destructive power. (Area Attack)
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かつて世界を滅ぼしたと伝えられる
超古代兵器の着ぐるみから解き放たれ覚醒したネコムート
不滅のパワーとスピードで敵を駆逐する(範囲攻撃)
EN Translation
Rumored to have once destroyed the world,
Cathamut is now released and awakened from
the costume of the ultra ancient weapon.
Expels enemies with immortal speed and power (Area Attack)
his best feat is destroying the world, which apparently isn't enough to get tier 5 bahamut
 
uh, im decently sure that the pixies have feats of coming from the edge of the universe, which is a pretty good speed feat if we can find that statement of the universes being infnite
 
that's true which I considered, though I kinda forgot about it cause of the timeframe issue but if the universe is infinite then yeah
although cotc seems to follow the typical rules and has a big bang
 
i mean, big bang doesn't mean that a universe is not infinite + wdym by follow the typical rules
I mean it's based off the real big bang which is a 3-A thing
either way though, all cats would be getting tier 3 durability from the big bang or at least tier 4 durability from black hole ( a black hole which is approximately the size of earth or bigger
 
デビルサイキックネコ
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近づくものすべてブラックホールに吸い込むネコ
最後に自分も吸い込まれることは薄々気づいている
エイリアンの動きをたまに遅くする
EN Translation
Sucks anything that approaches into his black hole.
Vaguely realising that he's getting sucked in as well.
Sometimes slows down the movement of aliens.
corrupted psychocat controls black holes. Not exactly big deal considering they're super tiny ones but whatever
 
聖会長ジャンヌダルクψ (Hijiri Kaichō Jan'nuc Daruku ψ, Saint President Jeanne d'Arc ψ)
聖会長ジャンヌダルク (Hijiri Kaichō Jan'nu Daruku, Saint President Jeanne d'Arc)
Cat Unit # 449Legend Rare Cat
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電脳学園の迷える生徒達を導く高潔な生徒会長
異次元より槍を放ち、神級への道を歩ませる
赤い敵と浮いてる敵に極ダメージを与える(遠方範囲攻撃)
EN Translation
A noble student president who leads the lost students of the cyber academy.
Releases attacks from another dimension while making her path to the divine class.
Extreme damage to red enemies and floating enemies (long-range attack)
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四次元学園より転校してきた裏生徒会会長
お仕置き希望の男子生徒多数(遠方範囲攻撃)
赤い敵と浮いてる敵に極ダメージを与える
EN Translation
Student council president who was transferred from a four-dimensional academy.
Many boys wish for her punishment (long-range attack)
Extreme damage to red enemies and floating enemies
low 2-C lol
ignore the last part
 
sadly you must be infinitely superior or proven to be infinite in four-dimensional scale for it to be valid now as low 2-C at best this would just give HDE though that also requires other things
 
not really atm its rated as unquantifiable so the tier you can get is based on feat rather than your existence.
for example Belldandy.


4 dimensional and infinitely superior to 3 dimension = low 2-C
4 dimensional and finite = unknown
4 dimensional and 4th spatial basically R>F over 3rd = low 2-C
 
well it should be high 3-A if we go by the logic that finite 3d is infinitely above finite 2d, and high 3-A should have the power of finite 4d
luckily there are 4-D statements above other than just existing in a 4d space though
 
well it should be high 3-A if we go by the logic that finite 3d is infinitely above finite 2d, and high 3-A should have the power of finite 4d
luckily there are 4-D statements above other than just existing in a 4d space though
yes but we don't instantly assume it to work like that unless R>F is proven or it is proven to be infinitely superior. some fiction tends to show higher dimension but fails to show its superiority and simply there to exist. so the burden of proof that it is infinitely superior would be on us
 
yes but we don't instantly assume it to work like that unless R>F is proven or it is proven to be infinitely superior. some fiction tends to show higher dimension but fails to show its superiority and simply there to exist. so the burden of proof that it is infinitely superior would be on us
wiki standards are so messed up man
 
ik. its hard keeping up with the ever-changing meta standard. but yeah they are much more strict when it comes to higher spatial dimension now
perhaps
and by the way, what are your thoughts on scaling the size of the black hole to the cats dura? It might be more reliable than the big bang
 
I'm out of loop when it comes to blackhole since blackhole ratings tends to go crazy infinite durability big bang IMO should be easier it's always worth trying.
I'll try to check black hole feats. well we can't really scale because he's still being sucked into it and not already inside the event horizon

if we use default big bang then it could give 3-A unless they are no in the epicenter
 
I'm out of loop when it comes to blackhole since blackhole ratings tends to go crazy infinite durability big bang IMO should be easier it's always worth trying.
I'll try to check black hole feats. well we can't really scale because he's still being sucked into it and not already inside the event horizon
sorry I wasn't referring to psychocat's black hole, I was referring to the black hole from the actual level sharing the same name
 
魔城龍バベル (Ma-jō Ryū Baberu Baberu, Demon Castle Dragon Babel)
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亜空間を統べる暗黒城と一体化した伝説の龍族
その破壊力は次元を越え、現世に破滅をもたらす
赤い敵と浮いてる敵に超打たれ強い(範囲攻撃)
EN Translation
A legendary dragon tribe integrated with the dark castle that governs the subspace
Its destructive power transcends dimensions and brings ruin to this world
Strongly hit by red enemies and floating enemies (range attack)
聖会長ジャンヌダルクψ (Hijiri Kaichō Jan'nuc Daruku ψ, Saint President Jeanne d'Arc ψ)
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四次元学園より転校してきた裏生徒会会長
お仕置き希望の男子生徒多数(遠方範囲攻撃)
赤い敵と浮いてる敵に極ダメージを与える
EN Translation
Student council president who was transferred from a four-dimensional academy.
Many boys wish for her punishment (long-range attack)
Extreme damage to red enemies and floating enemies
four dimensional academy obv
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Cat Unit # 493Legend Rare Cat
創造神ガイア (Sōzō-Shin Gaia, Creator-Goddess Gaia)
ゴッドガイア (Goddo Gaia, God Gaia)
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マナの力で世界を創造した全ての根源たる女神
始まりの神器「万物の創樹」で全ての敵を虚無へと還す 属性を持つ敵に極ダメージを与える(遠方範囲攻撃)
EN Translation
The root goddess of all who created the world with the power of mana
Return all enemies to nothing with the beginning of the divine instrument "Creation of All Things" Deal extreme damage to enemies with attributes (distant range attack)
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マナの力により真なる力を解放した始まりの女神
天地創造の神器「万物の神創樹」で敵を断罪する 属性を持つ敵に極ダメージを与える(遠方範囲攻撃)
EN Translation
The goddess of the beginning who liberated the true power by the power of mana
Kill enemies with the Gods of Heaven and Earth Creation "The Divine Creation of All Things" Deal extreme damage to enemies with attributes (distant range attack)
(Gaia doesn't directly have any 4d statements but creation of everything and creation of heaven and stuff is still worth mentioning)
極秘研究機関パンドラ (Gokuhi Kenkyū Kikan Pandora, Top Secret Research Institute Pandora)
終末兵器ムー (Shūmatsu Heiki Mū, Doomsday Weapon Muu)
Cat Unit # 463Legend Rare Cat
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古代より伝わる未知のクリスタルを捧げた祭殿兵器
異次元の力は制御できず、世界を終末へと導く(全方位攻撃) 波動を打ち消し、ゾンビに打たれ強く極ダメージを与える
EN Translation
A warden weapon dedicated to an unknown crystal from ancient times
Forces of different dimensions can not be controlled, leading to the end of the world (all-round attack), defeating the waves, hitting zombies and giving strong polar damage
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「四次元クリスタル」を解析する政府の極秘研究機関
制御不能の強大な力は自らをも破滅へと導く(全方位攻撃) 波動を打ち消し、ゾンビに打たれ強く極ダメージを与える
EN Translation
Top government secret research institutes to analyze "four-dimensional crystals"
The uncontrollable force leads to destruction of itself (all-round attack). It cancels the wave, strikes zombies and gives strong polar damage.
including both for more emphasis on extra dimensional and four dimensional power source
夢幻の精霊ルミナリア (Mugen no Seirei Ruminaria, Visionary Spirit Luminalia)
幻の精霊ルミナ (Maboroshi no Seirei Rumina, Visionary Spirit Lumina)
Cat Unit # 478Legend Rare Cat
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宇宙の果てからやって来たと言われる幻の精霊
降り立った星に万物の源を宿す。エイリアンに
超打たれ強く、たまに攻撃力を下げてバリアを貫く
EN Translation
A visionary spirit that is said to have come from the end of the universe.
The origin of everything resides on a fallen star.
Super tough against Aliens, occasionally lowers their attack power and penetrates Barriers.
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宇宙の運命を見定める幻の精霊。世界を構成する
元素を自在に操り、その力はバリアをも貫く
エイリアンに超打たれ強く、必ず攻撃力を下げる
EN Translation
A visionary spirit that gauges the fate of the universe.
Freely controlling the elements that make up the world, their power also penetrates Barriers, is super tough against Aliens and always lowers their attack power
seems to have survived the end of the universe, that's probably pretty important
レジェランパサラン (Rejeran Pasaran, Legelan Pasalan)
レジェルガ (Rejeruga, Legeluga)
Cat Unit # 461Legend Rare Cat
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ネコなのか何なのか、
まったく正体不明な異次元のキャラクター
進化させると…
EN Translation
Whether it's a cat or something else,
it's a character of a different dimension that is completely unknown.
If you let it evolve...
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ネコなのか何なのか、
まったく正体不明な異次元のキャラクター
波動によるダメージを無効にする(全方位攻撃)
EN Translation
Whether it's a cat or something else,
it's a character of a different dimension that is completely unknown.
Nullifies damage from waves (omnidirectional attack)
of different dimension, just more supporting evidence that doesn't mean anything by itself
火炎の精霊王メラバーニング (Kaen no Seirei-Ō Merabāningu, Flame Spirit King Melaburning)
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銀河をも灰にする強大な炎の力を手にした猛火の精霊
ビッグバンを超えるパワーはバリアを貫く力を持ち
エイリアンに打たれ強く、超ダメージを与える
EN Translation
An inferno spirit with the power of a mighty fire that reduces the galaxy to ash.
Power beyond the Big Bang has the power to penetrate Barriers.
Durable against Aliens and deals super damage to them.
again not exactly 4d but it shows that it's beyond baseline 3-A, so more of a consistency thing

Enemy Unit # 449Alien/Floating
スターフィリバスター (Sutā Firibasutā, Star Filibuster)
JP Script
星々の間を彷徨いながら
破壊を繰り返す謎の生命体。
その凄まじき超絶破壊力は
宇宙の構造すら書き換える。
EN Translation
A mysterious lifeform who causes repeated
destruction while roaming the stars.
Its unfathomable destructive power can
rewrite even the structure of the universe.
universal, again
Cat Unit # 141Special Cat
神様 (Kami-sama, Mr. God)
シークレット神様 (Shīkuretto Kami-sama, Secret Mr. God)
JP Script
ついに時空を超越した神
その反動で見た目は子供になってしまったが
煩悩はオトナ。その能力は謎に満ちている
EN Translation
God finally transcends time and space
Although appearance has become a child in the reaction
Earthly desires are adults. Its ability is full of mystery
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ついに時空を超越した神
この体ならばネコヴァルキリーの母性をくすぐれると
フォーリンラブへの自信にみちている
EN Translation
God finally transcends time and space
Once Kusugu the maternal cat Valkyrie if this body
I'm full of confidence to foreign Love
Transcending time and space for god
and that's basically it, although there is probably another cat or something out there with 4d implication that I'm too lazy to find
what's the thoughts on everything?
 
as for overall scaling, here are my thoughts
all cats can get a 3-A rating for big bang feat including fodder
there's a bunch of candidates for high 3-A above as well
as for speed, realistically the whole bullet train cat deal is an inconsistent mess for scaling, and so is the dodge mechanic. Although based on the pixies existing we know that there's a likely chance of mftl+ but I'm not sure that can be proved
being able to fight in a black hole is likely the best bet but I'm still unsure if it counts
 
I mean it's based off the real big bang which is a 3-A thing
either way though, all cats would be getting tier 3 durability from the big bang or at least tier 4 durability from black hole ( a black hole which is approximately the size of earth or bigger
yeah the big bang is 3-A because it was our irl big bang on the page, nothing is stopping a big bang from being low 2-C or high 3-A
 
yeah the big bang is 3-A because it was our irl big bang on the page, nothing is stopping a big bang from being low 2-C or high 3-A
the peak of anything for the verse seems to be high 3-A cause they're consistently having finite 4 dimensional AP it seems
also I don't see anything on the wiki that says that can't be able to result in high 3-A
 
uh, the universe literally is proven to have a space-time continuum, the big bang would be tier 2, and the almighties are stated to have made reality, which we know has multiple timelines/universes since S.Gao + the multiple legend rares that mention different dimensions as in alt worlds
 
ゴッドガイア (Goddo Gaia, God Gaia)
創造神ガイア (Sōzō-Shin Gaia, Creator-Goddess Gaia)
Cat Unit # 493Legend Rare Cat
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マナの力で世界を創造した全ての根源たる女神
始まりの神器「万物の創樹」で全ての敵を虚無へと還す 属性を持つ敵に極ダメージを与える(遠方範囲攻撃)
EN Translation
The root goddess of all who created the world with the power of mana
Return all enemies to nothing with the beginning of the divine instrument "Creation of All Things" Deal extreme damage to enemies with attributes (distant range attack)
JP Script
マナの力により真なる力を解放した始まりの女神
天地創造の神器「万物の神創樹」で敵を断罪する 属性を持つ敵に極ダメージを与える(遠方範囲攻撃)
EN Translation
The goddess of the beginning who liberated the true power by the power of mana
Kill enemies with the Gods of Heaven and Earth Creation "The Divine Creation of All Things" Deal extreme damage to enemies with attributes (distant range attack)
creation of all things does imply it I supposed
but that's the only almighty that actually has the power to create a universe, and it's unclear if that can even scale to AP
 
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