(Base) Rot Spinne (Dies Irae) vs Sans (Undertale)

[CrossverseCrisis]

Speed Equalized and takes place in Asgore's castle.



"heh heh heh heh heh... all right. well, here's a better question. do you wanna have a bad time? 'cause if you take another step forward... you are REALLY not going to like what happens next."

Tally:

-Sans: 1

-Spinne: 0

-Inconclusive: 0

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Sans. Dies Egliket ritual requires killing a LOT of people, so KR is going to hit really really damn hard. That resistance to Soul Manip don't mean much when Sans is attacking the SOUL which is the mind, body, soul, and "culmination of your entire being". Oh and by nature of not being one shot by every being in UT, Chara must have had resistance to soul manipulation, which means Sans tore through a 2-B being's soul resistance like it was nothing. Teleportation, gravity and spacial manipulation are just the icing on the cake for this.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

but spinne is resistance to soul manipulation as every Die Egliket user is resistant to it to an extend they can survive other members attacks that damage the soul. Honestly i need to think a bit more

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

1 for Sans. 0 for....Spinne.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

@TISSG7Redgrave Based on his low rank, I'm assuming Spinne would die quite easily to characters such as Elenore and Tubal Cain, and his soul resistance won't help with that. In the same way, sans soul manipulation outdoes his resistance easily.

To gain enough power to become "immune to all weapons ever created by man", you need 1000 souls - so you need to have killed 1000 people. Even if we assumed Spinne has never killed more than that, that's still almost 10X the number of people Chara killed to get their stats to 99 - and Sans attacks absolutely tore through Chara, even with 99 DEF and thus multiversal stats. With prolonged contact with his bones, Chara dies in about 2.4 seconds due to KR plus his scratch damage - Spinne is going to go down about 10 times quicker.

Considering how many people they've killed and sans' "instant use of strongest attack" in character battle mindset, I'd go so far as to say the only LDO members who stand a chance against sans (with speed equalised) are Reinhard due to... being Reinhard, Tubal due to his AoE briah which would catch sans (in this case it depends whether Tubal can activate his briah before sans hits him with the bone zone - who ever moves first wins), and Wilhelm possibly due to the similar AoE type Briah (though even then Sans might be able to kill him first, or just TP out of this AoE), and Ren (due to not having killed that many so KR wouldn't be able to kill him before he time haxes sans to death). Everyone else gets dunked on - hard.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Sans is actually a lot faster than all of the DI and KKK characters. AFAIK, all of them are about baseline MHS+ at Base. with Sans actually being a lot faster than that the other MHS+ characters in his own verse if not higher. Only Wolfgang and Rein with NF and Ren while having Eine Finale on is what gets them past MHS+.

Sans would need the speed advantage rain order to survive against them. @Monarch

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Just saying unless you want to ignore me on it.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I don't think he does need that speed advantage. It would definitely help obviously, but with speed equalised he can still teleport out of the way, or teleport their attacks out of the way with spacial manipulation. Or use blue soul mode to hold them down and impale them.

Oh and True Briah Wolfgang would beat him by screaming, even with speed equalised

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Meh, I just consider going having him need it considering it makes him more secured of beating them in a fight. Reinhard at base speed would be blitzed if Sans was completely bloodlusted and had full knowledge of what he can do.

Again, just saying how important that really is for him to have it even then.

Ah.