Banjo & Kazooie vs Ali (Tiersetter Tourney R1M2)

[Jerry59]

The Bear and Bird Fra

Huh I thought the current state of arguments was leaning towards Ali-

 

[Greatsage13th]

I'd also mention that the Invulnerability isn't super real. We only let it reach arbitrarily high if it has a good mechanism, and as far as I can tell, B&K doesn't have that. So it's just treated like a dura amp that makes them take 0 damage from attacks that can normally harm them.

Since Ali's stronger, I'd expect him to be able to get a little damage off, but not much, before it wears off.

Which basically means Ali can just counter Banjo's invincibility slightly because of his superior stats. Banjo seems to have an unfavourable position in this match now. Outclassed in everything but lifting strength but even then Ali can just take that away via magnetism.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Huh I thought the current state of arguments was leaning towards Ali-

That's because it WAS!

 

[Greatsage13th]

Anxious I am, that I'll see a train of FRAs only for the side with the bigger margin of votes.

 

[Jerry59]

nah

Which basically means Ali can just counter Banjo's invincibility slightly because of his superior stats. Banjo seems to have an unfavourable position in this match now. Outclassed in everything but lifting strength but even then Ali can just take that away via magnetism.

Ali FRA

 

[OrangeFR]

Ali lowkey wins I guess

 

[Shadowslash125]

Ali FRA

 

[Agnaa]

Bump!

 

[ProbNotAFelon]

What is Ali's wincon other than having slightly higher stats (which is somewhat countered by golden feather)? Am I missing something?

 

[Greatsage13th]

What is Ali's wincon other than having slightly higher stats (which is somewhat countered by golden feather)? Am I missing something?

You wouldn't call almost 3x AP as slightly higher. The problem is that Ali's tops can continually ricochet off of other objects to strike Banjo again for over several seconds at least, basically the moment the feather wears off, he basically gets knocked out cold. In addition to that, Banjo's abilities and equipments can be countered one way or another with Tops or simply Magnetism manipulation.

 

[ProbNotAFelon]

You wouldn't call almost 3x AP as slightly higher. The problem is that Ali's tops can continually ricochet off of other objects to strike Banjo again for over several seconds at least, basically the moment the feather wears off, he basically gets knocked out cold. In addition to that, Banjo's abilities and equipments can be countered one way or another with Tops or simply Magnetism manipulation.

Ok, that makes sense. Ali FRA.

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[DontTalkDT]

Ali FRA due to stat difference top barrage, I suppose.

 

[Jerry59]

Bump

 

[Shadowslash125]

Bump

If you're planning to vote, you can do so since you haven't voted yet.

 

[Agnaa]

They already have; Jerry voted back here.

 

[Jerry59]

If you're planning to vote, you can do so since you haven't voted yet.

i already voted lol

 

[Shadowslash125]

I am blind.

 

[Jerry59]

btw Agnaa you are da judge, maybe you can vote for Ali if you think his wincons are good enough ?

 

[Agnaa]

I could, but I'd rather bump.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Ali FRA

 

[Agnaa]

And that's grace!