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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Kid Zaraki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bleach 😎
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Adam1396 said:
Doesn’t her feat imply something?
What does enhanced AZ supposed to mean anyway? I can understand enchances npi, but enhanced AZ!! That just doesn’t sound reasonable
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It implies she is capable of overcoming resistances to baseline Absolute Zero with her Bankai.

It means she has beyond baseline Absolute Zero. It isn't reasonable in the sense of being plausible in real life, but it is reasonable in the sense of being plausible in fiction, as fiction doesn't abide by real life physics.
 
Deceived3596 said:
It implies she is capable of overcoming resistances to baseline Absolute Zero with her Bankai.

It means she has beyond baseline Absolute Zero. It isn't reasonable in the sense of being plausible in real life, but it is reasonable in the sense of being plausible in fiction, as fiction doesn't abide by real life physics.
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Is baseline AZ a thing?
 
DaMonkeMan said:
I hope this question doesn't get me jumped for being stupid or something but do y'all think Ichigo could have beat Grand Fisher if GF wasn't a dumb ass troll during the fight
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At the start of the fight, Ichigo going wild could have hurt his sisters, and Fisher had the advantage. After that, Fisher taunted him into a rage, and got a hit off. Then, he used his mom against him, and impaled him. Then he jumped while he was turned away and cut him. Then he turned into his mom and got away. If he hadn't done that last part, Ichigo would have slaughtered him. If he did that and kept fighting, Ichigo would have dodged him out and Rukia would have slaughtered him.
 
SlendVeny said:
At the start of the fight, Ichigo going wild could have hurt his sisters, and Fisher had the advantage. After that, Fisher taunted him into a rage, and got a hit off. Then, he used his mom against him, and impaled him. Then he jumped while he was turned away and cut him. Then he turned into his mom and got away. If he hadn't done that last part, Ichigo would have slaughtered him. If he did that and kept fighting, Ichigo would have dodged him out and Rukia would have slaughtered him.
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Honestly GF didn't seem too different from a regular Hollow. He was just a slimy bastard who kept playing with people's emotions to win fights.
Dude got his cheeks clapped the moment he had a real battle
 
SlendVeny said:
Your proposal is that child Zaraki is FTL and capable of atomizing 5-C characters with his aura?
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If he already beat her up physically, and she doesn't have a resistance to Zaraki's aura hax... then what is Kaguya gonna do?

You're saying "capable of atomizing 5-C characters with his aura" like that has anything to do with it

Also... yes that's explicitly what I said in response to the premise that Kaguya is FTL. I think Zaraki is faster than Kaguya, even if that's how fast you think Kaguya is.
 
I think zaraki's eyepatch removal is greater amp than his shikai or may be similar.
And post safwy zaraki is beyond kaguya's paygrade. He should be faster too.
 
That's how I got it:
Gremmy (planet+) ~ eyepatch shikai zaraki ~ Tybw base eyepatchless zaraki ~ kid zaraki >~ bankai unohana > safwy zaraki > azashiro's spear > sokyoku

Speed: anybody relative to renji should be casual FTL
 
Kaguya vs Kid Kenpachi is a very contentious match up depending on how you argue specifics. Personally, I think you can argue Kaguya could probably regenerate from that level of destruction with her Chakra, after which, she can teleport him to another dimension, which Kenpachi can't leave from since he doesn't know Senkaimon at that point in time, and just leave him there until SBA kicks in and she wins by a technical incapacitation, or by dropping an ETSO in that dimension and erasing him from existence.

I could also see you arguing that Kenpachi's level of destruction being too much for Kaguya's regeneration to handle, so any of his attacks would deal irreversible damage to her, and If you argue Kenpachi is substantially faster than her, he can blitz and kill her beyond her regeneration before she could react accordingly.

There is also Reiatsu Crush, which you have to account for when considering this debate as well.
 
Bastolan27 said:
Who do y'all think is the strongest Bleach character Himawari could fight and potentially defeat?
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If you mean Current Hima, probably SS Arc Chad or Hanatoro (if we don't consider RC). Pre-timeskip Himawari would probably only beat Kon or Human Ichigo at best (which might even be debatable because Ichigo still got hands)
 
Bastolan27 said:
Who do y'all think is the strongest Bleach character Himawari could fight and potentially defeat?
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In like pure stats alone, she's prolly like between high tier Vollstandig Sternritter and Elite Sternritter. I'm not going to get into like soul hax debate and shenanigans, but characters in Bleach with far weaker stats have far better soul hax than Himawari. As far as like a named character, probably someone like Sklaverei enhanced Vollstandig Candice is like the caliber of character she can beat. That is if you think she's above V1 Karma Kawaki, if she's just like vaguely bijuu level (above base Kawaki which she concretely is), then any relevant SS arc character to top tier Espada character is going to face tank everything she has (depending on if you think Bijuu level is like 6-C or 6-A ish).
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
In like pure stats alone, she's prolly like between high tier Vollstandig Sternritter and Elite Sternritter. I'm not going to get into like soul hax debate and shenanigans, but characters in Bleach with far weaker stats have far better soul hax than Himawari. As far as like a named character, probably someone like Sklaverei enhanced Vollstandig Candice is like the caliber of character she can beat. That is if you think she's above V1 Karma Kawaki, if she's just like vaguely bijuu level (above base Kawaki which she concretely is), then any relevant SS arc character to top tier Espada character is going to face tank everything she has (depending on if you think Bijuu level is like 6-C or 6-A ish).
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You talking about what's currently on the profiles btw?
Im fairly certain V1 Karma Code is like around 177 Exatons which is above any of the elites RN im terms of profiles.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
In like pure stats alone, she's prolly like between high tier Vollstandig Sternritter and Elite Sternritter. I'm not going to get into like soul hax debate and shenanigans, but characters in Bleach with far weaker stats have far better soul hax than Himawari. As far as like a named character, probably someone like Sklaverei enhanced Vollstandig Candice is like the caliber of character she can beat. That is if you think she's above V1 Karma Kawaki, if she's just like vaguely bijuu level (above base Kawaki which she concretely is), then any relevant SS arc character to top tier Espada character is going to face tank everything she has (depending on if you think Bijuu level is like 6-C or 6-A ish).
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How crazy, but supported by calculations. Still I'm impressed
 
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