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Renji and Bazz-B stomp Byakuya,real.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Twisted_Little_Raven
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Rukia cleaved through As Nodt and froze his blood
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Resistances aren't immunities.
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She only froze on a surface level. Also resistance =/= immunity. You can be affected by stuff you resist, it just doesn't affect you as much as someone who doesn't resist it.
Twisted_Little_Raven
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When Rukia was going over her new shikai abilities she was going over how freezing works at certain temperatures as if he applied like a normal human lol. Then we see her cleave through him and the blood froze as she said.
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Twisted_Little_Raven
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Here we go again this is just L debate tactics
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Twisted_Little_Raven
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Yea you lost buddy
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Rukia explaining different levels of freezing points doesn't disprove the resistance. If I explain how fire works, and how fire at certain temperatures melt things. Does it debunk a feat of you resisting said fire? no, that's asinine reasoning.
I hope you understand Quincies resistances come from Blut Vene, which works by infusing Reishi particles into one's blood, causing it to solidify. Do you have evidence that the blood she froze was enhanced, and solidified by As Nodt's Reishi Manipulation?
This is also discounting the fact that even if you do prove this, it doesn't debunk the resistance since the resistance comes from As Nodt breaking out of the ice, not him not being frozen by it.
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This is very consistent and already strongly implied
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You're attempting to commit a false compromise fallacy. You're not good at debating, you just commit fallacy after fallacy, get slammed on your head, and whine like a spoiled brat. You can address the arguments in a non-fallacious way or concede so you don't keep embarrassing yourself.
Twisted_Little_Raven
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Right then the stuff she said applied to As nodt as if he has no resistance at all.
Yea because y'all always imply blut is used even when it's not shown. See Bazz B vs yama arguments
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That's you equivocating. Nothing about those explanations implies that As Nodt has no resistance to her ice. Like, even if we assume those explanations were made under the idea she thought As Nodt had no resistances, it doesn't debunk the fact we directly see him resist it.
We have substantiated reasoning as to why we do that. You don't.
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If Äs Nödt had zero resistance he would have stayed a popsicle.
Resistance is also not inmunity as we see with Askin later on,who takes 0 damage once he becomes inmune to something.
Resistance is also not inmunity as we see with Askin later on,who takes 0 damage once he becomes inmune to something.
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you may be on to something
Guacamolefletcher
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Just the fact that he even turns into one and can thaw shows he has a level of resistance to it. Our bodies can't thaw after being frozen while working properly because of how ice has more volume than water
Twisted_Little_Raven
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So if I look at every single profile in bleach I better see resistance to ice manipulation/heat manipulation on everyone toshiro fought and everyone with more Ap then him because bleach characters have always avoided being frozen. And we are to assume toshiro can't freeze the characters higher than him permanently. I'm not even talking about Adult toshiro as I think he's conceptual. This is just a verse specific issue like hakai in dragon ball
Guacamolefletcher
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Toshiro creates ice around you, instead of lowering your temperature
Twisted_Little_Raven
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Literally irrelevant as creating ice around them would lower their temperature lmfao
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Twisted_Little_Raven
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Here we go again that's an L on you buddy
Guacamolefletcher
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It's not the same level of resistance to your actual insides being frozen, but regardless, sure. I'm fine with Haribel having resistance to low temperatures, as she doesn't seem to have any freeze burns on her
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You'll likely need to explain what the big word "equivocation" means to Raven.
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Unlike Arc and Arcker, I don't have the patience to deal with you. If you believe that's an L for me, I don't care.
Twisted_Little_Raven
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No you need to make a counter argument or stop talking
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@Twisted_Little_Raven use Equivocation in a sentence
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He doesn't need to refute a non sequitur. Since they don't logically follow the argument preceding them.
How do people resisting Toshiro's ice, which would grant them resistances to low temperatures, refute Deceived's claim?
Arcker123
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You gotta stop this nerdy ass verbiage
.It's clear you're not going to get anywhere if you explaining shit with language she doesn't get.
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Idc, I gave her links to the big scary words and what they mean, she's got access to the internet. At this point any ignorance is just on her. I'm not losing any sleep if she can't comprehend what a non sequitur is, hell I explain what it is in the sentence following my usage of the word in the post you quoted.
Twisted_Little_Raven
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Or you can be a normal person and use normal words instead of trying to sound smart in a debate.
If you think equivocation is a word people actually use regularly then you're delusional. Yall quite simply have terrible debate tactics. You put yourselves in situations where the opponent has to prove something that can't actually be proven and take that as evidence. Or get them to prove something that doesn't need to be proven.
The whole Ichibei not being sensed thing told me all I need to know. Then I say Bazz b didn't use blut but automatically assume so now i have to prove people use blut when we assume characters already did in majority of situations where we shouldn't. Y'all are impossible to deal with because of your debate tactic.
Nobody cares about your nerdy words u use to save yourself in a debate to prove you're always right. Has Arc ever lost one? No because his debate tactics ensure he cant. So either make an argument or stop talking. Ad hominem, Non sequitur, equivocation, Hatchet's razor?? WTF is even that.
Basically this boils down to, the people I'm debating with can't actually lose a debate because they use scummy tactics to ensure nothing they are saying on a technical standpoint is wrong.
Utterly ridiculous
If you think equivocation is a word people actually use regularly then you're delusional. Yall quite simply have terrible debate tactics. You put yourselves in situations where the opponent has to prove something that can't actually be proven and take that as evidence. Or get them to prove something that doesn't need to be proven.
The whole Ichibei not being sensed thing told me all I need to know. Then I say Bazz b didn't use blut but automatically assume so now i have to prove people use blut when we assume characters already did in majority of situations where we shouldn't. Y'all are impossible to deal with because of your debate tactic.
Nobody cares about your nerdy words u use to save yourself in a debate to prove you're always right. Has Arc ever lost one? No because his debate tactics ensure he cant. So either make an argument or stop talking. Ad hominem, Non sequitur, equivocation, Hatchet's razor?? WTF is even that.
Basically this boils down to, the people I'm debating with can't actually lose a debate because they use scummy tactics to ensure nothing they are saying on a technical standpoint is wrong.
Utterly ridiculous
Arcker123
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I mean why engage with her at all if you don't at least want to change her views.
Nobody else agrees with her, or needs to be convinced why.
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I find it entertaining
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