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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
Aizen is a Lucifer/Devil analog (his ascended form is called the Devil in the databooks) and Yhwach is a Jesus analog 🗿 Yhwach is the literal son of god (Soul King)
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The Soul King is referred to as a devil, and Aizen's character arc can be seen as a negative character arc of Jesus (or positive? as he starts bad and becomes better person) or a fusion of both Jesus and Dante's Inferno Lucifer.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
No he isn’t 🗿 Reio is the literal creator deity of the verse
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'For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.'
The Soul King was created by the primordial universe or the "true God." He then began killing the poor Hollows, who are akin to animals operating on instinct. By the way, Quincy's EE is considered a sin.
 
Bastolan27 said:
'For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.'
The Soul King was created by the primordial universe or the "true God." He then began killing the poor Hollows, who are akin to animals operating on instinct. By the way, Quincy's EE is considered a sin.
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there is no "true god" before him, soul king just appeared knowing what and who he was (I AM THAT I AM) as well as his purpose
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
No one created Reio goober
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According to Ichibē Hyōsube, over a million years prior to the Soul King's ultimate demise, all of existence was a single, chaotic, primordial world overrun by Hollows that preyed upon the world's denizens. When said Hollows started to evolve into the first Menos, the being that became known as the Soul King first emerged, "born" as if the world itself rejected the Menos. To protect the inhabitants of that world, the Soul King proceeded to annihilate all the Hollows that preyed upon them, temporarily stabilizing the world's decline. [2]
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Bleach is subtle in that way; these little details carry significant meaning and are not present without purpose.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
“Born” is in quotations as in it’s not meant to be taken literally.
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Just consider it similar to Lucifer in Vertigo Comics. He was not "born" through any biological process, but the universe rejected the hollows, leading to his existence. This implies a level of sentience for the universe, akin to the universe in the Constantine animated movie.
 
Bastolan27 said:
Just consider it similar to Lucifer in Vertigo Comics. He was not "born" through any biological process, but the universe rejected the hollows, leading to his existence. This implies a level of sentience for the universe,
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What
 
Bastolan27 said:
I am not saying it is; I'm not Christian either, but Kubo uses Christian themes in his writing, and it is also not pro-Christian hate or something.
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I know he does 🗿 the very fact I presented arguments for Christian symbolism in Bleach acknowledges that. What I’m refuting is the interpretation that from what we know rn your interpretation is correct. Regardless, there is potential for the Hell arc to actually support your interpretation depending on what new lore we get.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
I know he does 🗿 the very fact I presented arguments for Christian symbolism in Bleach acknowledges that. What I’m refuting is the interpretation that from what we know rn your interpretation is correct. Regardless, there is potential for the Hell arc to actually support your interpretation depending on what new lore we get.
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Just wait for when the hell arc says these things are angels.
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Bastolan27 said:
That's what I'm saying. Imagine if they fell because they were toppled (coup d'état)
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I’m not agreeing with you, I’m just saying that demons in Christianity are literally angels, so calling them as such wouldn’t be “subverting expectations” or whatever
 
LordTracer said:
I’m not agreeing with you, I’m just saying that demons in Christianity are literally angels, so calling them as such wouldn’t be “subverting expectations” or whatever
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It is, though, because most people don't associate demons with angels. Even Christians, believe me, I know a lot of Christians who don't even know that. Them being angels would subvert the expectations of the average viewers while still making a plot twist possible and foreshadowed enough.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Aizen is a Lucifer/Devil analog (his ascended form is called the Devil in the databooks) and Yhwach is a Jesus analog 🗿 Yhwach is the literal son of god (Soul King)
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I know you are probably tired of this, but I need to get this out of my mind.
Yhwach's power disappeared 10 years after the war if I'm not misremembering, and the number 10 in the bible means
The Passover lamb was selected on day 10 of the 1st month (Exodus 12:3), as was Jesus, the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world (John 12:28 - 29; 1Corinthians 5:7). Day 10 of the 7th month is also the Holy Day known as the Day of Atonement. This unique day of fasting pictures the removal of Satan, the author of sin, before the millennial reign of Jesus begins (Revelation 20:1 - 2).
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Yhwach is a satanic figure, and Aizen or Ichigo, or Kazuki, or whatever hell is, is a messianic figure.
In my interpretation, I don't hold the objective truth. Literature is an art of interpretation, after all.
 
I don’t disagree that Ichigo can be interpreted as a messiah figure, given that the Horn of Salvation is another title for Jesus Christ
 
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