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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
I didn’t… 😭 dear lord I made it explicit in the OP itself that the only people this affects are squad 0 and the god tiers. I can’t force y’all to read I can only provide the text
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I literally asked the same question, and you mentioned scaling when I mentioned updating profiles. Cause you always put the thing at the end where everyone is gonna upscale to like the thread before, while this didn't have it. that confused me.
 
Uh aight, idk what to tell you outside of um read the profiles for the god tier scaling and you’ll see how the god tiers scale within themselves. Unless you’re asking for explicit values? In that case just wait for me to apply the thread and check the profiles if you don’t wanna do the math yourself. Realistically at the rate the thread is going, I’ll have it on profiles by the weekend, so you won’t have to wait long. To let you in on an insider secret, no one who makes CRTs appreciates it when they provide a CRT and instead of contributing to the CRT a bunch of goons flood the thread with “but where does so and so scale”. 1) you’ll see by the end of the thread is the obvious answer and 2) when we make these threads we don’t know for sure if they’ll get accepted so we aren’t going to go around and count our chickens before they hatch, so another obvious answer is “idk we shall see when the thread concludes so we know what’s accepted”. And if you wanna further talk about where people would scale like if the thread was hypothetically accepted, that talk can be made outside the CRT.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
What’re y’all’s ranking of your favorite Bankai?
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1:Zanka no tachi
2:Kaminishi no Yari
3:Kannonbiraki Benehime Aratame
4:Hakko no Togame
5:Katen Kyokutsu Karamatsu Shinjuu

Honourable Mention:Tensa Zangetsu(Fullbring Version)(my beloved)
Underrated and i wished it got a better showing:Kinshara Butodan.
Also i apologize for contributing to the "where do they scale" issue,i recognize i probably should have just went Agree FRAtello and left it at that.(i don't have the brain to contribute meaninfully to the CRT atm)
Thanks for all your efforts not just on the verse but in General,you put a lot of hard work into this stuff and i think anyone with eyes(so not us lmao) can see that.
Impatience is in the Bleach Goon genes including me fr fr.
 
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Arc7Kuroi said:
Uh aight, idk what to tell you outside of um read the profiles for the god tier scaling and you’ll see how the god tiers scale within themselves. Unless you’re asking for explicit values? In that case just wait for me to apply the thread and check the profiles if you don’t wanna do the math yourself. Realistically at the rate the thread is going, I’ll have it on profiles by the weekend, so you won’t have to wait long. To let you in on an insider secret, no one who makes CRTs appreciates it when they provide a CRT and instead of contributing to the CRT a bunch of goons flood the thread with “but where does so and so scale”. 1) you’ll see by the end of the thread is the obvious answer and 2) when we make these threads we don’t know for sure if they’ll get accepted so we aren’t going to go around and count our chickens before they hatch, so another obvious answer is “idk we shall see when the thread concludes so we know what’s accepted”. And if you wanna further talk about where people would scale like if the thread was hypothetically accepted, that talk can be made outside the CRT.
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BleachHollow said:
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For Goonery's sake im fairly certain that outside of Squad zero the only profiles this changes would be Fkt God tiers and maybe WSK but im not that Certain on that(Since all the other god tiers are in Cour 3 and 4,and will be part of those CRT if Arc is still alive or sane after dealing with at least 1/2 (for cour 3/4 respectively) extra years of our goonery ).
Butterfly and Monster would Literally just upscale from the Calc result with Monster probably getting an "at least" rating,then they get the Ultra Fragor Multiplier,Dangai scales to that and then Final Getsuga Tensho just upscales from that with a far higher since there's no Multiplier that can be used.
Apologies if im complety off the mark and for bringing it up here Arc but giving a bare bones version will probably be enough to answer how it would work?
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
Just some advice for y'all. Not everything has to be applied immediately when a tier for a feat is accepted. There can be follow up threads for tier placements to make things simpler and quicker and not all in one thread.
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You complety right honestly,doing stuff one step at a time is something im gonna try to do here from now on.
 
KingogKings777 said:
When you realize that Goku and Beerus clashing was gonna dab on one universe and gets low-C2 but Shutara baby shakes 3 of them with a fraction of her power gets 4-A. Just lol.
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...Goku was gonna destroy 3 at least dawg. Also tier 2 is extremely consistent in DBS, and it's stated they were gonna destroy the structure of the universe itself several times for this feat
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
You're really not, barely anyone is giving it attention OR taking it seriously, and you come off as mostly a pseudo-intellectual instead of someone who's read up on special relativity, no offense.
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are my arguments in the thread somehow invalid? if they are, feel free to ask a staff member to post there yourself.
 
Deceived3596 said:
Explain further, how exactly are they more haxxed?
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Deceived3596 said:
Explain further, how exactly are they more haxxed?
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riruka can shrink the koygoku and yukio recreated that whole dimension.

Riruka can also turn plp to stuffed aminals and manipulate them

Girkio can set rules or amp himself with his time power

Tsukishima can cutt anything and change the past of anything. He can use this null attacks,manipulate or gain intel.

Ginjo can steal powers and bestow them. Not only that he can merged abilities making them better.


Yukio can pretty much do just about anything


So their way more haxed than hollows
 
BasedNecoScaler69 said:
the fullbringers have shit like messing with the past, time manipulaton,yukio's full bring, etc. And they have pieces of the soulking in them, basically acting as miniature hogyoku's
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B.O.T.E requires direct contact with the opponent to actually affect them, which given Comp Hollows insane spam capabilities through Ceros, is most likely not going to happen.

Time Tells no Lies is incredibly vague in its description and usage, it could be useful, sure; I just don't see it being all that useful here given multiple abilities either superseding the shown usages, like Roka's regeneration making the "killing" aspect of it useless.

Invaders Must Die is definitely useful and potent in this situation, It's probably Comp Fullbringers best ability tbh. It however requires the opponent to be placed inside another dimension for its effects to work, which is highly improbable since Composite Hollows can release out hundreds of Cero Oscuras and Gran Rey Ceros to destroy everything around them, including the dimension. You also have Respira which will age anything that tries to encage them, Roka's mimicry allowing her to copy the ability, transfer her information someplace else to escape the dimension etc. Composite Fullbringer also has to activate this ability before getting completely dookied on by the immense spam of Composite Hollow, which I can't foresee them doing.

Soul King Fragments are stated to act like miniature Hogyoku's but I don't see how it's useful for this fight when all of the impressive abilities that the Hogyoku has isn't present within them, we don't see the amazing regeneration, the amazing reality warping capabilities, the fate manipulation etc.

Reio35 said:
riruka can shrink the koygoku and yukio recreated that whole dimension.

Riruka can also turn plp to stuffed aminals and manipulate them

Girkio can set rules or amp himself with his time power

Tsukishima can cutt anything and change the past of anything. He can use this null attacks,manipulate or gain intel.

Ginjo can steal powers and bestow them. Not only that he can merged abilities making them better.


Yukio can pretty much do just about anything


So their way more haxed than hollows
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Shrinking doesn't mean much in this situation when multiple Hollows can increase their size through Res or other abilities, Composite Hollow can also just eventually negate it through things like Roka's power mimicry or Baraggan's Respira aging away the heart placed on Comp Hollow.

That requires interaction, which isn't happening with Baraggan's Respira aging everything.

As I explained above, Girko's ability is nigh-featless and vague, so it's not that useful in this fight.

Explained above, He can null attacks by manipulating their past, I don't disagree but with the amount of attacks actually coming after him is beyond his ability to cut and manipulate imo.

Ginjo can only steal Fullbringers, which Hollow abilities aren't.

Already addressed the Yukio point above.
 
Deceived3596 said:
B.O.T.E requires direct contact with the opponent to actually affect them, which given Comp Hollows insane spam capabilities through Ceros, is most likely not going to happen.

Time Tells no Lies is incredibly vague in its description and usage, it could be useful, sure; I just don't see it being all that useful here given multiple abilities either superseding the shown usages, like Roka's regeneration making the "killing" aspect of it useless.

Invaders Must Die is definitely useful and potent in this situation, It's probably Comp Fullbringers best ability tbh. It however requires the opponent to be placed inside another dimension for its effects to work, which is highly improbable since Composite Hollows can release out hundreds of Cero Oscuras and Gran Rey Ceros to destroy everything around them, including the dimension. You also have Respira which will age anything that tries to encage them, Roka's mimicry allowing her to copy the ability, transfer her information someplace else to escape the dimension etc. Composite Fullbringer also has to activate this ability before getting completely dookied on by the immense spam of Composite Hollow, which I can't foresee them doing.

Soul King Fragments are stated to act like miniature Hogyoku's but I don't see how it's useful for this fight when all of the impressive abilities that the Hogyoku has isn't present within them, we don't see the amazing regeneration, the amazing reality warping capabilities, the fate manipulation etc.


Shrinking doesn't mean much in this situation when multiple Hollows can increase their size through Res or other abilities, Composite Hollow can also just eventually negate it through things like Roka's power mimicry or Baraggan's Respira aging away the heart placed on Comp Hollow.

That requires interaction, which isn't happening with Baraggan's Respira aging everything.

As I explained above, Girko's ability is nigh-featless and vague, so it's not that useful in this fight.

Explained above, He can null attacks by manipulating their past, I don't disagree but with the amount of attacks actually coming after him is beyond his ability to cut and manipulate imo.

Ginjo can only steal Fullbringers, which Hollow abilities aren't.

Already addressed the Yukio point above.
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I actually forgot Composite hollows includes Roka of all Yhwach-Forsaken things,does Ikko also come with anything interesting?
Also Composite hollows get to break "equal stats" by having Cero Oscuras at bare minimum being a 10x AP amp and then having at bare minimum 4 Techniques that would upscale from so there's that.
Does Composite Fullbringers have any concrete answers to Amor btw?
 
Crobatman44 said:
I actually forgot Composite hollows includes Roka of all Yhwach-Forsaken things,does Ikko also come with anything interesting?
Also Composite hollows get to break "equal stats" by having Cero Oscuras at bare minimum being a 10x AP amp and then having at bare minimum 4 Techniques that would upscale from so there's that.
Does Composite Fullbringers have any concrete answers to Amor btw?
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Does reiou count as a full bringer?
 
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