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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

I think muken aizen wins guaranteed against squad 0 but I still have some doubts about chrysalis, butterfly and monster aizen. There is no proof anybody sensed her reiatsu. They are either reacting to the giant ass red sphere above or the skies rumbling. And like I said before They couldn't tell she was way stronger. Even in her bankai Gerard thought it was some puny thing despite being in direct contact with the reiatsu that shook the realms.

Plus hax. So far what I'm thinking is, chrysalis aizen no, butterfly maybe, monster aizen likely, and muken absolutely.
Monster Aizen is a no-no, he was adapting/damaging Post-Dangai Ichigo who is at least as strong as Almighty Yhwach who one shots Ichibei
 
Like I get it, Aizen doesn’t have any big aoe feats like Shutara, and like big shockwave ooga booga, but let’s not throw away our thinking caps.

Don’t @ me but Dangai Ichigo is probably stronger than TS
 
whats ur scaling for danga and TS?
True Zangetsu > True Bankai HoS (5-10x) > True Bankai > True Shikai HoS GRC GT (10x) > True Shikai HoS (5-10x) > True Shikai > WSK < Fourth Fusion Aizen < Fifth Fusion Aizen < Ultrafragor (12x) < Dangai < Mugetsu (far far beyond 10x to say the least).

Aka Ichigo physically ain’t surpassing Dangai until True Bankai, and then I got True Zangetsu above Mugetsu.
 
"who said a fake cant surpass the original" - arc, probably.

ts basically does the thing that danagi does, which is merge ichigos powers into 1 zanpakuto, the one difference is now it has his quincy powers
It’s not a fake, he fused with the real zangestu as proof his zanpakuto was one within his arm
simply he “cheated“ all the steps for a temporary pact with Zangestu (which were both fused)
 
Condom Aizen = cannot be sensed by Kisuke > Kisuke ~ base Aizen ~< Yama > Tokinada ~ Shunsui = can sense Shutara’s Bankai. Aka Condom Aizen (non sensory gap) > Kisuke > Shunsui < Shutara Bankai (sensory gap), and non sensory > sensory gap.
Shunsui never sensed it there was just a big red thing covering the sky and realms were rumbling
 
I think it would be narratively strange, as the Dangai would be just a fraction of the power that Ichigo released after recognizing his true blade.
plus there's a reason why he wouldnt have mugetsu, but theres no reason why he wouldnt have the power he gained in the dangai back, he trained to get those powers instead of transforming into a one-off form
 
I think it would be narratively strange, as the Dangai would be just a fraction of the power that Ichigo released after recognizing his true blade.
Dangai is a perk form of Ichigo, it is not included in the “fraction” statement

unless you believe a fraction of power of true shikai ichigo is SK level

which is not.
 
Also it is very contradictory itself, Dangai fused with both the side of the zanpakuto, so he had control over them since he was one thing with them

they could not nerf him, that’s was the whole point of the form, as matter of fact he lost all his power even the ability to see shinigami, so that’s was not a fraction. He lost both hollow/quincy/shinigami stuff if he could not even See Rukia.

the fraction thing, refers only to his fullbring and masked forms.
 
Dangai always appeared as more dominant where as true shikai never had the same energy. Like getting surprised by fodder where as dangai would just have a straight face. Like I know he's suppressed it's just the portrayal of dangai ichigo's power was more impressive/intimidating.
 
Dangai is a perk form of Ichigo, it is not included in the “fraction” statement

unless you believe a fraction of power of true shikai ichigo is SK level

which is not.
This is my interpretation, but I believe that Shanghai is all the powers that Old Zangetsu gave to Ichigo at that time and and TS >~Dangai.
 
This is my interpretation, but I believe that Shanghai is all the powers that Old Zangetsu gave to Ichigo at that time and and TS >~Dangai.
having TS >~ Dangai is not that wrong if you mean the “reiastu revealed/full power” TS anyway.
Im just stating my opinion about the topic, there isn’t an objective answer imo
 
Dangai is a perk form of Ichigo, it is not included in the “fraction” statement

unless you believe a fraction of power of true shikai ichigo is SK level

which is not.
dangai is a merger between old zangetsu and ichigo's fake zanpakuto spirit, which is weaker than a real asauchi.
 
Dangai is a fusion of White's full hollow power + Tensa Zangetsu + 3 months of training. It's pm the fusion of Ichigo's powers lacking the a proper asauchi. True Bankai HoS is a fusion of White's full hollow power + Tensa Zangetsu + Reiokyu training, but with a proper asauchi.
 
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