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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arc7Kuroi said:
True Bankai > True Shikai HoS GRC GT (10x) > True Shikai HoS (5-10x)
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You are right but this always seemed silly to me.
Like GRC is >10x(higher end Bankai amps), and HoS is similar to Vasto Lorde(I know you don't like that name, but shut up it sounds cool) which is >hollow mask(i.e x10). So this is like at least maybe 100x base. And that is without the Getsuga added.
 
That_moron2 said:
You are right but this always seemed silly to me.
Like GRC is >10x(higher end Bankai amps), and HoS is similar to Vasto Lorde(I know you don't like that name, but shut up it sounds cool) which is >hollow mask(i.e x10). So this is like at least maybe 100x base. And that is without the Getsuga added.
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erm yuh, TB is 100x stronger than TS
 
I subscribe to True Shikai > Dangai given Yhwach's statement being delivered to True Shikai Ichigo, but lets see how the anime presents it because Cour 3 is supposed to change a lot.

Regardless, True Shikai Ichigo > Ichibei and the Royal Guards.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
I subscribe to True Shikai > Dangai given Yhwach's statement being delivered to True Shikai Ichigo, but lets see how the anime presents it because Cour 3 is supposed to change a lot.
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I agree, I think Arc's saying that based on the vague evidence, it might just also be the case that Dangai > TS, depending on the meaning of Yhwach's statement
 
TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
why are u inside then?
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They have locked me in a basement for having great takes unfortunately

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Twisted_Little_Raven said:
Apple said tsukishima > butterfly aizen
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that would be wrong, because people stronger than Tsukishima can be sensed by regular fodder Shinigami, such as Zaraki being sensed by his subordinates in the TYBW (I guess they kinda ommitted it in the anime tho), and sub-base Aizen level Shunsui can sense Shutara
 
What happens if Uryu beats Senjumaru/One shots her with an arrow?
I also believe we saw Uryu Vollständig in the trailer as well.
 
Antithesis explains how he escapes the bankai maybe not how she dies. I saw him shooting an arrow in the trailer and it gave me anxiety. If he kill her in her bankai with ap calling outlier bc he couldn't beat her base. Needed blut to Parry her strike. Outlier, nobody scales, gg go next
 
Twisted_Little_Raven said:
Antithesis explains how he escapes the bankai maybe not how she dies. I saw him shooting an arrow in the trailer and it gave me anxiety. If he kill her in her bankai with ap calling outlier bc he couldn't beat her base. Needed blut to Parry her strike. Outlier, nobody scales, gg go next
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Uryu would be like, “I wasn’t even using my full power. I was pretending to fall down. I’m sorry. But I have to do this for the sake of the “Quincies”. Meaning the future of the race when he stops Yhwach. :)
 
Is anyone gonna take Japanese scalers in debating sites seriously? They are all running right now with “all of creation / universes” for Senjumaru’s feat. Not planets.
 
I mean, saying that all she shook is 3 planets is kind of idiotic. Arc's recent calculation that is based only on the planets is nothing but a placeholder because I guarantee you that it won't stay this way forever.

As for the Japanese stuff - Senjumaru does in fact use kanji which means "everything in existence" and is a synonym to "universe". That being the kanji for "heaven and earth". It is commonly used as a hyperbole but given that we are shown Senjumaru shake a planet located a universe and a spacetime away from her basically proves that she didn't say what she said only to gas her power up.
 
Thought of an interesting sternritter idea.

Sternritter W. "War"

Basic premise is passively grow in strength the longer conflict draws out. Like dropping this person into the middle of the invasion type shit. Weapon would be like a spear and a shield. Using sklave rai gives them a gold glistening Spartan like armor with a cape.

A stronger ability they would have would be to use mental conflict as well to gain in strength. Using the internal battles people have within themselves and use that to amp themselves when there is no battle going on. The sternritter would maybe be bambietta tier but their power could potentially ramp up to at least the level of giant Gerard. But they need to be In the actual battlefield. So passive power amp.

Weakness is enclosed trapping abilities like tosen's bankai, byakuya's bankai, or anything that can enclose them as it wouldn't count as "on the battlefield" but only for anybody also enclosed with them. So at most they would only be able to feed off the mental struggles of the person "trapped" with them. abilities they would have would be called "phalanx", "our arrows will blot the sun", and "God spear"

Thought it would be cool for anybody based on Athena or Ares
 
Twisted_Little_Raven said:
Thought of an interesting sternritter idea.

Sternritter W. "War"

Basic premise is passively grow in strength the longer conflict draws out. Like dropping this person into the middle of the invasion type shit. Weapon would be like a spear and a shield. Using sklave rai gives them a gold glistening Spartan like armor with a cape.

A stronger ability they would have would be to use mental conflict as well to gain in strength. Using the internal battles people have within themselves and use that to amp themselves when there is no battle going on. The sternritter would maybe be bambietta tier but their power could potentially ramp up to at least the level of giant Gerard. But they need to be In the actual battlefield. So passive power amp.

Weakness is enclosed trapping abilities like tosen's bankai, byakuya's bankai, or anything that can enclose them as it wouldn't count as "on the battlefield" but only for anybody also enclosed with them. So at most they would only be able to feed off the mental struggles of the person "trapped" with them. abilities they would have would be called "phalanx", "our arrows will blot the sun", and "God spear"

Thought it would be cool for anybody based on Athena or Ares
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Gremmy be like "all you need to do is simply imagine it"
 
W0NDER3X said:
I mean, saying that all she shook is 3 planets is kind of idiotic. Arc's recent calculation that is based only on the planets is nothing but a placeholder because I guarantee you that it won't stay this way forever.

As for the Japanese stuff - Senjumaru does in fact use kanji which means "everything in existence" and is a synonym to "universe". That being the kanji for "heaven and earth". It is commonly used as a hyperbole but given that we are shown Senjumaru shake a planet located a universe and a spacetime away from her basically proves that she didn't say what she said only to gas her power up.
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This won't work 1 they aren't DBS(manga), 2 Bleach is disliked by a couple of people with high spots, 3 they not in a spaceship, 4 it's gonna be harder to leave out scans on purpose, and 5 it's an automatic outlier cause of reasons.
 
KingogKings777 said:
This won't work 1 they aren't DBS(manga), 2 Bleach is disliked by a couple of people with high spots, 3 they not in a spaceship, 4 it's gonna be harder to leave out scans on purpose, and 5 it's an automatic outlier cause of reasons.
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Gonna be real funny if it gets applied and you’re whining for no good reason-
 
Saibotsan said:
About senjumaru killing lille, is his weakness mirrors or senjumaru having attack reflection?
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Attack relfection/damage sharing/causality manipulation either works given what we've seen. However since Senjumaru seems to foreshadow how they'll perish or at least what they'll fight against, furthermore possibly even wavering and sealing their fates, I'd place my bet on damage sharing (same as one of Bankai Shunsui's dans).
 
I don't think lille got reflected think his damage appeared on his own body like when shunsui shared their wounds. You can't reflect the x-axis when he's in his base state only his light shit can and I doubt a simple mirror would do it
 
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