BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[AppleLord]

White one was an editorial mistake without Kubo’s consultation. He made them fix it.

 

[Tyri456]

White one was an editorial mistake without Kubo’s consultation. He made them fix it.

white does make sense, he probably just changed it for aesthetic purpose.

white is a bit weird to see, but it make sense

 

[W0NDER3X]

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Variant of almighty confirmed?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Are you a vessel capable of withstanding the power that fills it, or are you a bowl that shatters?

This is ******* raw

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Would be cool

 

[AppleLord]

Meh

 

[Lynieryz]

Ichigo's Vollständig when?

 

[Reio35]

That's dope so the soul king is literally holds the weight of the world.

So why is ichibei prepping ichigo to be soul king? He must have not been confident they could beat pre Almighty yhwach.

Ichibei is still a sick bastard for not telling ichigo what he was doing to him

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Throwback to when Reio35 thought Ichibe was just telling Ichigo to surpass normal Shinigami. Shout out to literally everyone else who correctly guessed it had to do with transcendence as Ichigo is becoming a vessel capable of holding Soul King’s power

 

[Reio35]

Throwback to when Reio35 thought Ichibe was just telling Ichigo to surpass normal Shinigami. Shout out to literally everyone else who correctly guessed it had to do with transcendence as Ichigo is becoming a vessel capable of holding Soul King’s power

Uhhh ichibei literally says he's become a true soul reaper how ever you want to interpret that

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Cope ^

 

[Ped2018]

Reio activities

 

[Naeblis495]

So Ichigo is legit feeling the weight of the whole verse ? He can thank those back muscles !

would that qualify as a lifting strengh feat ?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

So Ichigo is legit feeling the weight of the whole verse ? He can thank those back muscles !

would that qualify as a lifting strengh feat ?

If he’s literally holding the weight of all worlds than yeah that would

 

[Reio35]

And that's a base ichigo feat btw

 

[Reio35]

Cope ^

Also this isn't a test to get him to become transcended ichibei lied to get him to do this test to see if he's reio level

 

[Malekith]

So why is ichibei prepping ichigo to be soul king? He must have not been confident they could beat pre Almighty yhwach.

Reio already knew he was going to be killed, this place that Ichigo is only Reio can allow, so...

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Throwback to when Reio35 thought Ichibe was just telling Ichigo to surpass normal Shinigami. Shout out to literally everyone else who correctly guessed it had to do with transcendence as Ichigo is becoming a vessel capable of holding Soul King’s power

U expect Undre to admit he is wrong?

 

[Apotheosis69]

Variant of almighty confirmed?

Nah, I think that is the Full version. Ichigo is gonna be soo busted

 

[AppleLord]

Nothing implied that.

So Ichigo is legit feeling the weight of the whole verse ? He can thank those back muscles !

would that qualify as a lifting strengh feat ?

 

[AppleLord]

Nah, I think that is the Full version. Ichigo is gonna be soo busted

No.

 

[Deceived3596]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/ranking-hst-intelligence.156688/

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Reio35 you realize Butterflyzen is when Aizen reached true transcendence and it’s also when he got to the level of Soul King. Being transcendent and soul king level are one and the same

 

[Apotheosis69]

Being Soul King level is just Aizen boasting...

 

[Tyri456]

So Ichigo was having hard time walking because Ichibei was literally testing if he can hold SK power
That’s cool
Probably he will handle it fine at the end of the training

 

[Ped2018]

Being Soul King level is just Aizen boasting...

Check the scans on Aizens profile man, the databooks double down on his statement

 

[Apotheosis69]

Check the scans on Aizens profile man, the databooks double down on his statement

Databooks usually (Not always) just repeat what characters say before hand, usually with no added info. And even then, they get contradicted by the manga source material afterwards in serialization.

 

[Tyri456]

Being Soul King level is just Aizen boasting...

Not really, beside being the whole point of that arc introducing the level of power necessary to over throw the soul king through trascendence, all the statements that Aizen surpassed or being equal “god” or the SK are from databook, so a neutral point of view.

And Aizen only started boasting after Ichigo surpassed him. If that’s what you mean.

while he was in chrysalis or butterfly form he was sure to dominate soul society and bring it down by becoming the SK, this is also confirmed in CFYOW by Tosen.
Aizen show to have extensive knowledge about SK palace and the oken, no reason to lie.

 

[Tyri456]

Not to mention like the plethora of times CFYOW wrote that the hogkyoku amps soul to literally Soul King level konpaku, which is self explanatory.

 

[Apotheosis69]

I understand now

 

[Tyri456]

If you are interested in some of the stuff present in CFYOW @Apotheosis69 here the quotes

- Hogyoku alter the world to fulfill the desire of the owner

The Hogyoku a device that would alter the very world as it fulfilled the desires of those around it.-CFYOW

- Aizen desire was to replace the soul king himself

"I will eventually reach the horizon of the truth and will replace the linchpin. I will likely stand in heaven, not manipulated by others into becoming a sacrifice, but of my own volition." - CFYOW

- Hogyoku is stated to be able to amp konpaku to SK level

So had he wanted to create a konpaku that was as powerful as the Reio's? Or had he been trying to make it so any of the Soul Reapers could have the same power as the Reio - CFYOW

Aizen stated to reach or surpass the level of God/SK by Unsmaked

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sosuke_Aizen

See, pretty consistent, and Aizen’s Hogkyoku is even stronger than the basic Hogyoku CFYOW is referring to, given Aizen put inside it Nail of the Soul King to unlock it

 

[Reio35]

Reio35 you realize Butterflyzen is when Aizen reached true transcendence and it’s also when he got to the level of Soul King. Being transcendent and soul king level are one and the same

Okay but my issue is in the tybw they don't elaborate on transcended Gods at all. Plp still sensing ichigo and referring to him as a soul reaper makes me think kubo retconned some shit.

 

[Tyri456]

Okay but my issue is in the tybw they don't elaborate on transcended Gods at all. Plp still sensing ichigo and referring to him as a soul reaper makes me think kubo retconned some shit.

Is true that Kubo left that aside, but to be fair all the time people sensed Ichigo is when he was suppressed as ****, since when he reveal his true reiastu against SK Yhwach no one really mention sensing him. But again Kubo kinda left trascendence aside , yup

 

[Tyri456]

Butterfly Aizen was so heavy suppressed at one point that he let people like tatsuki sense him when he could very well raise his reiastu so much to avoid Urahara tier peeps sense him.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Okay but my issue is in the tybw they don't elaborate on transcended Gods at all. Plp still sensing ichigo and referring to him as a soul reaper makes me think kubo retconned some shit.

I do wish it was touched on more as well

 

[Ped2018]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/bleach-ikkaku-and-yumichika.156691/

 

[Apotheosis69]

Is true that Kubo left that aside, but to be fair all the time people sensed Ichigo is when he was suppressed as ****, since when he reveal his true reiastu against SK Yhwach no one really mention sensing him. But again Kubo kinda left trascendence aside , yup

Didn't Rukia and Renji say that another Spiritual Pressure came up near Ichigo so they can obv sense his presence. Else how would they know its him specifically? EVEN THEN, how could they sense SK Yhwach? Of all people

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Didn't Rukia and Renji say that another Spiritual Pressure came up near Ichigo so they can obv sense his presence. Else how would they know its him specifically? EVEN THEN, how could they sense SK Yhwach? Of all people

I stopped caring about transcendence since the sensing thing stop being relevant

 

[Apotheosis69]

You can not care about Transcendence all you want (and that is genuinely fine), but it still stands in the story. Hope the anime can fix it tho.