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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

My own theory about Dangai Form/Mugetsu
Every form of Ichigo except True Zanpakuto<<<<<Dangai Ichigo<<<<<Mugetsu Ichigo (Transcendent)


True Zanpakuto ichigoat can undergo another Dangai Training and getting a stronger Dangai Form<<<and having a stronger Mugetsu form (making him a higher transcendent being than in his previous Mugetsu)

Dangai training will boost his True Zanpakuto Reiatsu and Mugetsu will increase his Dangai trained Reiatsu and all of release it.
And in his True Zanpakuto, he was at his most powerful

Dangai training will boost his True Zanpakuto Reiatsu and Mugetsu will increase it.

In his Mugetsu form he will loss his Shinigami abilities but i think if he used Mugetsu in his True Zanpakuto, he will retain his powers since he never was a true Shinigami until TYBW.
 
Excel616 said:
My own theory about Dangai Form/Mugetsu
Every form of Ichigo except True Zanpakuto<<<<<Dangai Ichigo<<<<<Mugetsu Ichigo (Transcendent)


True Zanpakuto ichigoat can undergo another Dangai Training and getting a stronger Dangai Form<<<and having a stronger Mugetsu form (making him a higher transcendent being than in his previous Mugetsu)

Dangai training will boost his True Zanpakuto Reiatsu and Mugetsu will increase his Dangai trained Reiatsu and all of release it.
And in his True Zanpakuto, he was at his most powerful

Dangai training will boost his True Zanpakuto Reiatsu and Mugetsu will increase it.

In his Mugetsu form he will loss his Shinigami abilities but i think if he used Mugetsu in his True Zanpakuto, he will retain his powers since he never was a true Shinigami until TYBW.
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his base is already dangai/mugetsu level.....
 
Uryu and Gremmy were to most shafted Quincy in tybw…
Gremmy going out the way he did is something i never liked.
Uryu barely has any appearances,pretty self explanatory…

any other Quincy that was shafted by kubo?
 
skippy said:
Uryu and Gremmy were to most shafted Quincy in tybw…
Gremmy going out the way he did is something i never liked.
Uryu barely has any appearances,pretty self explanatory…

any other Quincy that was shafted by kubo?
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Gremmy was alright imo, he works well as a villain that gets introduced, gets one of the biggest and cooledt fights in the series and then die and never appears again. Jugram treatment is way worse because his role is much bigger
 

Some stuff from the 'Spirits Are Forever With You' novel. Over 50 Pikaro create a black hole.​

And then, from the area surrounded by them, the flow of air completely stopped—After a moment's pause, a black sphere is created at the center. The pitch-black "it" that wouldn't feel out of place being called a black hole, reflecting no light, started rotating with tremendous force. Within itself, it began to absorb all sorts of Reishi. If there were any floating spirits or Hollows, all of their Reiatsu might have been sucked into and disappeared within "it." On the other hand, outside the area surrounded by Pikaro, nothing changed at all, and a calm atmosphere itself was drifting. [They] isolate themselves from the present world and devour its interior.
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  • Jet black
  • Does not reflect light
  • Has angular momentum
  • That which is sucked into it vanishes
  • Hinted to be a black hole by the narrator himself
While fighting Kenpachi, Cien takes some of the Pikaro and absorbs their energy from them until they're completely out of energy in order to replenish his own. The Pikaro proceed to pass out and it is even stated that if they run out of energy, the rest of the Pikaro will evenly distribute their total energy among themselves.
Cien also makes it painfully obvious that the Pikaro are a precious energy source and that he cannot allow to lose them.

Do with that what you will.
 
Damn, I just realized that Bankai Yamamoto (2 arms) probably makes it into moon level without the new 5-B calc, since Base Aizen is currently 4.435 exatons, and baseline moon is 6.67 times greater than that. Keeping in mind that Yama in shikai > base Aizen, and bankai = 5-10x difference, with his zanpakuto being "ultimate," and the 4.435 exatons value coming from striped mask Ichigo, who should be fodder to shikai Yama, I can see this as completely reasonable. Especially for aizen's second and third fusion forms
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
the only goon scale I've seen is the 30% cien < res Yammy, which is straight up confirmed to be cap, his power being inflamed, and a teaser / foreshadowing
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I wasn't aware of that scan tbh but Still cien stated he reached perfection or 100% power during his fight with zaraki. Yet people are saying an even stronger version of cien is weaker than espadas 0-2. Now that's a goon scale for you
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
I feel like Lille could get a light speed statement from the anime, a title card, or a databook
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Tbf i dont see why we dont consider him and his attacks as actual light 🤷‍♂️

but its possible that the anime could insert a statement or a title card where it says so
 
TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
I think the argument used against lille was "well, we dont know if spiritual light/light from SS is the same as earth" or something ridiculous like that
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if its called light and doesent contradict later showings or can be rationlized i see no reason for it not to be SOL
 
Lille light is pure reish, and should have all the attributes of natural light. Like the flames of yamma which are pure reish and have all the attributes of natural flames
 
I brought this point up in yhwach 2A removal and wanted to ask if Uryu should have precog resistance?

even with the Almighty on,Yhwach never doubted Uryu Allegiance
-never saw the Arrow coming(it was with Uryu).
-when looking through the Almighty, Jugram could see things happening but couldnt confirm whether Uryu was involved.
-Yhwach saying Uryu power surpassed his own(idk if he meant Almighty or himself)
-Uryu being the only mixed quincy that Wasnt affected by Auswählen.

doesnt this all point to Uryu just having something about him that prevents the Almighty working on him.

kubo himself said the plot point behind Uryu not being Affected is Complicated but that we might see it in tybw anime.
 
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