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As far as I can tell Unohana's voice actor says verbatim what the manga does, meaning if the manga's rejected, there's no reason for the anime to be accepted.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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isn’t it just a buddhist reference tho?
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She refers to Avici and how it’s name means « incessant/infinite » but it’s not even about size it’s about it being an eternal place of suffering
Zaraki even back this up saying it’s an eternal hell
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I love ur pfp tho (topic off)
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If you talk about mine thanks
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Arc's going to be making a thread about this exact topic later down the line.
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Which changes would this apply? Or is there any big significant?
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Bare minimum, information that isn't inherently contradictory should be A-okay. But afaik the anime hasn't contradicted the manga
"But Arc they say Muken is infinite when the databooks say it only deludes one into thinking it's infinite"
Infinite =/= mathematical infinite inherently, so Unohana could just be using the "extremely large" definition, in which case it is in suit with the databook.
There hasn't been "new info" perse but more like clarifying information. Like we knew Blut was supposed to enable Quincy to fight a Bankai, now we know that this is because it amps them comparably to a Bankai level amp, the groundwork for Yhwach = Bankai Yama existed now the anime makes the argument stronger, the groundwork for FB Ichigo ~ Yhwach existed now the anime makes it clearer, we knew ZnT could destroy Soul Society now the anime tells us it would destroy the entire SS (let's call it a planet) in several hours. There is also a Shinigami, Quincy, and Hollows are significantly amped in HM statement too, so a lot of Arrancar arc in verse scaling might need to change, but I'll cross that path when I get there.
But the TLDR "changes" from the anime are: Blut Vene = 5-10x dura, Blut Arterie = 5-10x AP, base Yhwach probably = Bankai Yama, enraged fatigued FB Bankai Ichigo ~ base Yhwach.
"But Arc they say Muken is infinite when the databooks say it only deludes one into thinking it's infinite"
Infinite =/= mathematical infinite inherently, so Unohana could just be using the "extremely large" definition, in which case it is in suit with the databook.
There hasn't been "new info" perse but more like clarifying information. Like we knew Blut was supposed to enable Quincy to fight a Bankai, now we know that this is because it amps them comparably to a Bankai level amp, the groundwork for Yhwach = Bankai Yama existed now the anime makes the argument stronger, the groundwork for FB Ichigo ~ Yhwach existed now the anime makes it clearer, we knew ZnT could destroy Soul Society now the anime tells us it would destroy the entire SS (let's call it a planet) in several hours. There is also a Shinigami, Quincy, and Hollows are significantly amped in HM statement too, so a lot of Arrancar arc in verse scaling might need to change, but I'll cross that path when I get there.
But the TLDR "changes" from the anime are: Blut Vene = 5-10x dura, Blut Arterie = 5-10x AP, base Yhwach probably = Bankai Yama, enraged fatigued FB Bankai Ichigo ~ base Yhwach.
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Ichigo 1-A
Malekith
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Does she say that in Japanese raw? It's a prison so it can really have that double meaning, I don't see it negating the size
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Where does the anime say in hours again?
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The entire first invasion happened in 5 minutes due to the shadow time limit. Namek exploding all over again. Is call anime characters moving so fast everything else is slow down.Unless the anime decides to drag it out and have it fall at a snail's pace
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Data card for ZnT
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post
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We will get there when I get to making the CRTspost
but the kanji used to say he’d destroy SS after a long while means sumn like “in a long while; several hours; after a while” paraphrasing a bit
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So bro is barely Country level, got itWe will get there when I get to making the CRTs
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Arc can't post it since it doesn't actually exist, she's just trying to wank Bleach characters like she always does. I'm glad Damage and AKM are a part of this community to stop Arc and her lies.
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See...ya had me nodding along till you mentioned Damage
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Wank? No, this is downplay, each atom in bleach contains an infinite multiverse, making bleach tier 0 ez ez
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Planetary / several hours = multi continentalSo bro is barely Country level, got it
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Isnt the realm called the soul society and the "planet" called the sereitei ?We will get there when I get to making the CRTs
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By the way, as for the TYBW anime canonicity. In the official interview below it is stated that Kubo not only supervises but also edits/rewrites the script for the anime clearly intending to make it as close to what he envisions as possible:
Pretty sure I also saw a statement about Kubo supervising the storyboard. I'll try and look for it.
Pretty sure I also saw a statement about Kubo supervising the storyboard. I'll try and look for it.
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Yeah she does
Avici Is called infinite due to the fact that people suffer for eternity
Which is why she said « as it’s name suggest » it is made to draw a parallel
Which is confirmed by Zaraki’s statement
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Seireitei Is the city CFYOW States the Soul Society Is the Planet
Toshiro back it up in the Memories of nobody movie and the diagrams show it too
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I think everything included should be canon He said that he Would add the missing fights from the manga etc…By the way, as for the TYBW anime canonicity. In the official interview below it is stated that Kubo not only supervises but also edits/rewrites the script for the anime clearly intending to make it as close to what he envisions as possible:
Pretty sure I also saw a statement about Kubo supervising the storyboard. I'll try and look for it.
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Is it specified that he would destroy the Planet entirely?
So what will be the upgrades there apart of the multipliers things.
Also someone told me the Bankai multipliers were gonna get revised cause they don’t really follow the multiplier rules iirc when Is it for ?
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The anime will almost undoubtedly be canon, there's too much evidence of Kubo's involvement for it not to be.
But the important thing is the level of canon, as some people want it to supersede the manga. I personally think it should only be canon when it doesn't directly contradict the manga.
But the important thing is the level of canon, as some people want it to supersede the manga. I personally think it should only be canon when it doesn't directly contradict the manga.
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to us it might look slow, but that is just cus of how big it isUnless the anime decides to drag it out and have it fall at a snail's pace
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Kubo has stated iirc that he wants the tybw anime to be the definitive version of the arc
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Source?
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There's no way he can replace the manga, because Kubo won't change the story drastically or anything like that, the beginning/middle and end of Tybw was the way Kubo wanted it, he'll just brush the work so that the events occur in the same way. better way, at least that's what I understood from watching some interviews.
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But there's no guarantee of that, they could make drastic changes, and it's better to decide before they happen than backpedal when they do.
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I think this separation should only occur if there is any sudden change, otherwise the anime serves as material to confirm something that was not clear in the manga
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@Marshadow29 Seireitei is the country sized city in Soul Society, Soul Society is the realm of the Soul Reapers (whether it is a planet, multi-solar space, multi-galaxy space, or a universe is up for debate)
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Dude it's funny how it's considered as outliers when Yhwach was literally trying to nuke the verse and recreate something new. I like it how people just brush off bleach characters feats by words like outliers. Anyway If it doens't scale to others it should have scaled fo Yhwach, Ichigo and Aizen who objectively has statement to be on Soul King level.
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You think it'll be accepted that he's destroying the entire planet? It's currently surface wiping iirc
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My bad, he didn't say that, although he did say he was involved in pretty much every step on the anime's production at around 3:25
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Soul society Is the Planet the dimensions have no name iirc every source say the SS Is the Planet
CFYOW
Manga diagrams
Memories of nobody
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