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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Imma drop waifu art and leave

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Ssr4vegito said:
If Ukitake's was on Aizen's level it would've been stated so. Like his reiatsu is 2X of a captain or something like that. Ukitake's reuatsu is certainly above captains. If i were to put it an averags captain is 5 then Ukitake would be 8 and Aizen would be 10. I don't see anything that supports Ukitake is Aizen level reiatsu either other than Renji's statement of them training to fight enemies on the level of Aizen.

I think Aizen was talking about reaching his liits as a shinigami during Isshin fight. He grew stronger in Muken.

Also going by the whole hell chapter doesn't that imply Aizen has the highest reiatsu in the series? Piowerful enough to balance out hell
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Again, you're assuming that, but don't have proof that he would've said Ukitake has more reiatsu than FKT Aizen.

Renji states that they trained to fight enemies on Aizen's level, they trained for 17 months, in what world do the top captains not beat FKT Aizen?

He still hadn't mastered Kido just a short while earlier, considering Kurohitsugi didn't act as he wanted against Komamura, and Kido is a part of his shinigami powers. Him not having it mastered is definitive proof he hadn't yet reached the pinnacle of shinigami, not to mention Yama being stronger than him.

It doesn't. It says that after Ywhach and Aizen's reiatsus disappeared and Yama, Ukitake, and multiple other powerful souls were sent to Hell the balance was disrupted. As in it would've been fine if one or the other had happened.
 
Ukitake doesn't have proof his reiatsu is Auzen level either

Training to fight to fight enemies on Aizen's level doesn't mean they reached Aizen level.

I never said FKT Aizen reached his peak. TYBW Aizen is stronger version and actually seemed to have mastered kurohitsugi at full power compared to his SS arc showing

It say the powerful reiatsu that was keeping the mawls of hell on check Aizen disappeared. Basically means it was his high reiatsu that was balancing out the hell.
 
Ssr4vegito said:
Ukitake doesn't have proof his reiatsu is Auzen level either

Training to fight to fight enemies on Aizen's level doesn't mean they reached Aizen level.

I never said FKT Aizen reached his peak. TYBW Aizen is stronger version and actually seemed to have mastered kurohitsugi at full power compared to his SS arc showing

It say the powerful reiatsu that was keeping the mawls of hell on check Aizen disappeared. Basically means it was his high reiatsu that was balancing out the hell.
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I've been saying it's unquantifiably higher than the captains, and thus doesn't actually mean anything for what you're arguing.

True, but they trained to fight people on his level and can sense characters who are on the level of Dangai Ichigo. Therefore, they succeeded.

You asked if Yama reached his cap, I responded by saying we've never seen anyone actually reach their limit, you said that FKT aizen claimed he did, I said he didn't, as he hadn't mastered Kido and was still weaker than Yama.

Yes, but it also says after sending one powerful reiatsu after another, the powerful reiatsu keeping it in check disappeared. As in after the amount of reiatsu in Hell skyrocketed, multiple powerful reiatsus from outside of Hell vanished.
 
skippy said:
You know, couldnt Oetsu technically Pull out the Spirit of KS like he did to White and even summon KS to his hand like he did for Ichigo and Renji Zanpakutō?
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That means Oetsu would fight Aizen + KS? Because Yoruichi did that for Ichigo’s training and pulled out Yhwach. Imagine what the Sternrriter were thinking when they saw that?
 
gotta ask you guys, can we somehow get Aizen to have Mid Godly Regen based on these Feats and the Mugetsu that i forgot to add.
We see his him get deleted by these Kido, and get essentially turned into reshi particles.and since reishi=soul and Reiryoku= life force. Him being deleted like this would destroy his soul/Life Force.
Since we know that their bodies are essentially their Souls,wouldnt their Body being destroyed also mean their soul gets destroyed?
 
skippy said:
gotta ask you guys, can we somehow get Aizen to have Mid Godly Regen based on these Feats and the Mugetsu that i forgot to add.
We see his him get deleted by these Kido, and get essentially turned into reshi particles.and since reishi=soul and Reiryoku= life force. Him being deleted like this would destroy his soul/Life Force.
Since we know that their bodies are essentially their Souls,wouldnt their Body being destroyed also mean their soul gets destroyed?
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to get mid godly u need to regen from having your Mind + body + soul destroyed

we know he can regen from soul EE and if he had a body too but no info on the mind side
 
TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
to get mid godly u need to regen from having your Mind + body + soul destroyed

we know he can regen from soul EE and if he had a body too but no info on the mind side
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Kinda dumb your mind is a byproduct of your brain so if your destroyed physical the mind goes as well. Some of these requirements don't make any sense.
 
skippy said:
gotta ask you guys, can we somehow get Aizen to have Mid Godly Regen based on these Feats and the Mugetsu that i forgot to add.
We see his him get deleted by these Kido, and get essentially turned into reshi particles.and since reishi=soul and Reiryoku= life force. Him being deleted like this would destroy his soul/Life Force.
Since we know that their bodies are essentially their Souls,wouldnt their Body being destroyed also mean their soul gets destroyed?
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Yeah soul eraser equals body easer in bleach
 
skippy said:
gotta ask you guys, can we somehow get Aizen to have Mid Godly Regen based on these Feats and the Mugetsu that i forgot to add.
We see his him get deleted by these Kido, and get essentially turned into reshi particles.and since reishi=soul and Reiryoku= life force. Him being deleted like this would destroy his soul/Life Force.
Since we know that their bodies are essentially their Souls,wouldnt their Body being destroyed also mean their soul gets destroyed?
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Reio35 said:

Yeah soul eraser equals body easer in bleach
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I got a idea from this. We can use Memories of nobody to argue for mid godly regeneration.
 
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