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In some translations Kusuke said he got stronger since his fight agaibst Ichigo , at the the end of the foght he lost the transcended powers and returned to his shinigami form. Aizen could've just got stronger in Base.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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hes gonna argue kisuke isn't on his level therefore he isn't transcendent anymore because kisuke can sense his power now
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No it doesn’t, Ichigo is walking up the stairs -> Renji and Rukia sense him -> Ichigo materializes his reiatsu -> no one senses him.
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Transcended
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Aizen was never stated to be only weakened SK tier. The scans only saud he could replace SK (which version of SK is debatable) . While monster version surpassed even God. Even Ginjo is good enough to replace SK.
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Ginjo’s emotion amped Bankai Getsuga is verbatim stated to be equal to the strongest Getsuga Ichigo has fired off. Ginjo ain’t an antifeat.
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wdym EVEN ginjo
EldemadeDityjon
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Simplest assumption is WSK why would you assume he is on par with PSK
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Can you send me a scan for that?
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Emotio amped =/= casual state
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Considering the only thing to be replaced is the WSK, it is contextually referring to the WSK.
I’ll send it when you make the CRT
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I’ll send it when you make the CRTno shit
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bro will say strongest getsuga is mugetsu
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It's mot like Aizen was going to replace him in the crystal.Considering the only thing to be replaced is the WSK, it is contextually referring to the WSK.
no
no shit
Send the scan if you can
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Irrelevant
If you can make the crt and it stays open long enough for me to see it*
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If Ginjo is scaled to mugetsu then should scale to it in his emotional amp state.
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Yes, you don’t need to bring up points that no one is contending…
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Also doesn't the whole balancing the hell thing (if Aizen wasn't manually shutting the maws closed) throw off the CFYOW scaling anyway. If Kenny , Ginjo scales to Mugetsu then their reiatsu should've been enough to balance it out
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Not inherently, we don’t know enough about that mechanism to make any claims yet. But following this line of thinking, Ichigo is stronger than both Aizen and Yhwach, yet he isn’t keeping Hell closed.
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Then i say we wait. If the balamce thing us true then Kubo likely contradicted CFYOW scaling and that could possibly put shinigami Aizen above current captains in terms of reiatsu.
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Base Aizen > TYBW Ichigo to you huh?
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that wouldn't completely contradict cfyow scaling
which captains would you be talking about
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I don't think Ichigo counts considering he's probably nerfed in the living world. Also i at first thought it was done manually by Auzen but apple corrected me. I didn't mean Shinigami Aizen> TB Ichigo. I just stated if the balance thing us true then Kenny and Ginjo might be below shinigami Aizen
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Ginjo was stated to be soul king level base his power. Before the emotional amp stuff happened.
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aizen on the 5 threats level was put there for his reiatsu alone
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Iirc the hogyoku is also stated to be necessary to create SK like beings.
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to break the barrier of the races
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Yes. To become something beyond them like Butterflaizen and Monster Aizen
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No one could sense muken aizen tho kisuke said he could stronger because his black coffin now erases instead of atomization. Renji also couldn't sense his power and was unsure weather or not he was stronger. It's a given that he's still transcendent based on the fact he soul crush the soul palace from far away and can use KS without his sword.
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with just the kisuke statement which is the number 1 smartest character of the verse is enough
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Auzen theorised fusing with the weilder is the Zanpakuto's final evolution. Aizen only lost his transcended race powers. He still likely retained high reiatsu and he's a peak shinigami at this point
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he didn't lose anything and has transcendent feats
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He did lose his powers and it's stated
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This sums up my issue with power scalers, it’s the brain dead logic that if power is mentioned it must be AP. Aizen lost the powers, as in abilities, granted from his Hogyoku transformations, ie the Fragor, wings for unlimited flight, that weird teleportation thingy, etc.
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It stated he lost his powers and went to hus shinigami form. Logically anyone would assume he lost his boost from becoming a being that surpasses hollow and Shinigami.
Yhwach pre almighty was planning to free Aizen(the guy who could destroy him at the time) who could potentially betray and fight him. Why would Yhwach and sternritters who've been watching the characters all this time would take such a risk?
Yhwach pre almighty was planning to free Aizen(the guy who could destroy him at the time) who could potentially betray and fight him. Why would Yhwach and sternritters who've been watching the characters all this time would take such a risk?
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You know i dont think he lost Fraggor, it was just Condensed reishi after all
. He prob just not using it.
