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That's not an AP feat though.Shikai Kenpachi took a suicide bomb from the 7 Gremmy which is why he's x7 for Shikai.
Aizen no-sold a Reiatsu attack from Soul King Yhwach that destroyed his chair.
When did this ever happen, btw? I don't remember this being stated. ^
I feel a description like this should have some scans, ya know?
It does because of Gerard and Hoffnung.That's not an AP feat though.
So we shouldn't be saying that Kenpachi's AP gets a 7x multiplier.
No, the interpretation on the profiles is correct. I am one of its biggest supporters. And the upgrade uses cosmology from multiple sources, but mainly the manga, not Can't Fear Your Own World.From what I've observed, it's based on an extreme high-end interpretation of the nature of the cosmology from "Can't Fear Your Own World" - the Soul King created the spaces within which Soul Society and Hueco Mundo reside (as well as the Garganta and Dangai), and they've interpreted that to mean those spaces are around the size of a universe each. Along with saying that the entire dimension of the World of the Living was also created by the Soul King when he separated life and death.
Rather than, say, pocket dimensions linked to the Material World in Bleach and maintained solely by his existence.
I agree with this immensely.The descriptions of Yhwach's profile and the rest need to be changed and improved, for those who do not know and enter the profile, will not understand why they have such a level.
I'll make a CRT at some point to properly address this.It does because of Gerard and Hoffnung.
I am almost entirely sure this refers to Mimihagi, which was determined to be hax, not AP, right?
i think this
tho he could be referring to mimihagi not rei o
but he does say you may have foreseen the future and we know rei o is the one who could not mimihagi
i think a better justification is him stabbing reio but his durability is rated as unknown so theres that
yea it ended up being hax not ap.I am almost entirely sure this refers to Mimihagi, which was determined to be hax, not AP, right?
A better justification is him being >= True Shikai Ichigo through their fight.
Except, I disagree with it. The resulting differences between the "God tiers" and every other tier in the series would be too many orders of magnitudes to make sense, and I feel this specific interpretation people are arguing for is based on high-ends interpretations chosen by the interpreters to produce that result. I.e. That it "must be Universe-level" based on translations that use the word "universe" to describe what would happen if the balance of souls was disrupted.No, the interpretation on the profiles is correct. I am one of its biggest supporters. And the upgrade uses cosmology from multiple sources, but mainly the manga, not Can't Fear Your Own World.
-its not through balance of souls thats fan translation rei o maintains it through his own powerExcept, I disagree with it. The resulting differences between the "God tiers" and every other tier in the series would be too many orders of magnitudes to make sense, and I feel this specific interpretation people are arguing for is based on high-ends interpretations chosen by the interpreters to produce that result. I.e. That it "must be Universe-level" based on translations that use the word "universe" to describe what would happen if the balance of souls was disrupted.
There's even someone suggesting that Yhwach's age be changed to "1,000,000 years old"...Even though the manga itself has established that Yhwach is, at minimum, 1,200 years old.
The only realistic interpretation I can think of is one where the Soul Society and Hueco Mundo are just big enough to contain whatever celestial bodies are necessary, and that the Original World became the Material World after the Soul King's power split matter and reishi - life and death - from one another.
Can I see the scan where Yhwach’s age is told? You’d be the 1st to know seeing as no one within the verse even know how, where, or even when he was born.
A knowledgeable character of the lore shares the 2 most likely scenarios of Yhwach’s conception.
I'm talking about what I suspect is an example of people first choosing what they want the feats to be like, and then they word the "logic of the feats" to fit the conclusion they wanted from the start.Every form of tiering and scaling is "chosen by the interpreters" - this isn't a rebuttal. We look at the source material and determine the logic of the feats.
What are you even talking about?
Case in point.The Soul King maintains every world in existence, the worlds are universal in size, and upon his death, everything will be destroyed as shown we it includes the other-dimensional spaces like the Muken, Reio's Palace, Dangai, and Gargantua are also about to be destroyed. The Soul King in his prime literally created the three worlds and Yhwach's goal was to reverse that, That's why they are the tier they are because that is the tier of their feats. There are numerous characters who scale to these characters and these feats.
And I can promise you that my criticisms would be freely applied to any other interpretations that I feel are built on similar biases that I believe this interpretation is.I can nearly guarantee that no complaint that you have hasn't been brought up in the thread that got them their current tiering after literally hundreds upon hundreds of comments of dudes yelling to one another about this topic.
Case in point.
Only one world can be reliably said to be part of a wider universe in its own right - the Living World, the only world to contain both reishi and kishi. The Soul Society and Hueco Mundo, on the other hand, are realms made purely of reishi and are the construction of the Soul King, including the spaces containing them. The one exception to this is Hell.
The Soul King created the physical worlds of Soul Society and Hueco Mundo and the spaces which separate them from the Living World. That's the safest interpretation to go for when it comes to the Soul King and those comparable, and it doesn't end up breaking the power-scaling in-universe into a million pieces.
And I can promise you that my criticisms would be freely applied to any other interpretations that I feel are built on similar biases that I believe this interpretation is.
The manga said that a Quincy with similar powers to Yhwach is born every 200 years. And Yhwach was the “last” to appeared in the last 1,200 years. Is possible he keeps reincarnating or reviving himself with the Almighty.I forgot but Yhwach’s age needs to be changed to like Possibly 1,000,000 years
"If Yhwach was the originator of the race known as the Quincy, then the Rei-o can be called the source
of the very power of the Quincy. Whether the Rei-o had left behind an actual child before he was sealed
or whether the 'power' that was stripped off the Rei-o had manifested in the form of a person, I couldn't
really say."
What survey?Tomorrow I will create a CRT on the survey and define who is scheduled, if you already want to go debating here, it would be good, then I took the ready list there
was this ever brought up before or is it rejected ? if so why?ichigo cant be damaged without soul based attacks
so assuming it's consistent, a CRT might want to be made for thatInvulnerability (Can only be harmed and killed by a specific Holy or Vampiric Weapons, such as the Vampire Killer, The Alucard Sword and Spear, or Shanoa's Dominus)