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And Yamamoto?, Ichibei?, Gremmy?, Would the top tier be tier 3 to 2?It would be scaling Kenpachi Hikone/Iko and Ginjo to tier 3/2 yuh
I mean we have scan for how Yhwach gets his power ups. And even novel states he completely absorbed Gerald ReatsuThat’s not how that works ^
Arrow level Yhwach victimsAnd Yamamoto?, Ichibei?, Gremmy?, Would the top tier be tier 3 to 2?
Chalk that up to non AP related strength. At worst it’s directly contradicted anyhow.I still find funny that Meninas is stated to have strength on par with kenpachi on the novel lol
You wouldn’t get tier 5 adding the values we have for the Ritter atm.I mean we have scan for how Yhwach gets his power ups. And even novel states he completely absorbed Gerald Reatsu
only if you subscribe to Gremmy’s Galaxy roomAnd Yamamoto?, Ichibei?, Gremmy?, Would the top tier be tier 3 to 2?
It’s not full proof but I do use that scan to argue peak SK Yhwach ~ Prime Reio.Ok what about Yhwach having full power SK. Lmao are we gonna Ignore that fact?
You wouldn’t get tier 5 adding the values we have for the Ritter atm
only if you subscribe to Gremmy’s Galaxy room
He doesn't? that statement is within the context of the full-power of Weaken Soul King, not Prime Soul King which is stated to be transcendental to literally everything within the verse which would include Yhwach at full-power.Ok what about Yhwach having full power SK. Lmao are we gonna Ignore that fact?
IKR.Bleach has multiple metas
100 Zettatons I saw in Death BattleWhat about weakened SK holding 3 planets
That’s not inherently true. Yhwach had power surpassing WSK, then he absorbed WSK among basically all the Ritter and even some of Ichigo’s power. It’s arguable that all Reio’s power is ALL Reio’s power. Additionally, the manga doesn’t distinguish between Weakened and Prime Reio, that’s just a vsbw thing.He doesn't? that statement is within the context of the full-power of Weaken Soul King, not Prime Soul King which is stated to be transcendental to literally everything within the verse which would include Yhwach at full-power.
Speaking of soul king scaling, are the only ones being upgraded to planet level in that thread of yours iko,hiko,zaraki and ginjo?
Kazui gonna use paper level attack to beat them all. Wait and seeSpeaking of soul king scaling, are the only ones being upgraded to planet level in that thread of yours iko,hiko,zaraki and ginjo?
I was really wondering when did reio got time to sing a duetNo one is as strong as Reio when he was whole. Yhwach himself is likely just another piece of him.
Him absorbing the powers of WSK then all of the powers of the Ritters, then some of Ichigo's Hollow/Quincy Power doesn't change anything with his scaling to Prime Soul King since he didn't absorb the other main aspects of PSK like his remaining internal organs which have been shown multiple times to massively scale above most Sternritter or every fragment/nail of Soul King which grants people powers/strength on the level of Sternritters.That’s not inherently true. Yhwach had power surpassing WSK, then he absorbed WSK among basically all the Ritter and even some of Ichigo’s power. It’s arguable that all Reio’s power is ALL Reio’s power. Additionally, the manga doesn’t distinguish between Weakened and Prime Reio, that’s just a vsbw thing.
It's upgrading those characters and characters that scale to those versions of said characters (Within the context of Azashiro's Spear and The Sokyoku)Speaking of soul king scaling, are the only ones being upgraded to planet level in that thread of yours iko,hiko,zaraki and ginjo?
do you have this statement?I still find funny that Meninas is stated to have strength on par with kenpachi on the novel lol
As in you can make a decent case for SK Yhwach ~ Prime Reio, I’m not claiming it’s concrete or absolute. Narratively speaking Prime Reio and SK Yhwach have similar lore statements of being able to reshape and destroy the entire world too. Also, Ichibe said Reio transcendED everything, aka past tense. So that isn’t an inherent debunk to my claim either. It’s not a hill I’d die on tho lol, I’m fine with saying Prime Reio is above the entire verse (as noted by his 0 placement in my tier list).What do you mean by "It's arguable that all of Reio's Power is ALL Reio's Power?"
Res Hikone, Soul King fragments absorbed Iko, CFYOW Kenpachi, and CFYOW Bankai Ginjo to be specific would scale in that Soul King tier. As far as tier 5, I want to scale more characters to tier 5 using the Sokyoku but that one is understandably met with skepticism.Speaking of soul king scaling, are the only ones being upgraded to planet level in that thread of yours iko,hiko,zaraki and ginjo?
Ichibei > Yhwach > Aizen > God AizenHow is base aizen relevant to any of this?
Ichibei > Yhwach > Aizen > God Aizen
Yo are you for real.Ichibei > Yhwach > Aizen > God Aizen
I always interpreted it as "Meninas rivals pre TYBW Kenpachi".I still find funny that Meninas is stated to have strength on par with kenpachi on the novel lol
Anyway Muken is in SS and Yhwach was destroying the SS at the end. So doesn't that count as 3A feat for trying to destroy an infinite sized dimension.
I always interpreted it as "Meninas rivals pre TYBW Kenpachi".
The Quincy collected a good amount of info for almost every soul reaper before the war, so it's logical to assume that this statement is known between the Quincy from before the war.
Or if you don't like this interpretation, the statement is contradicted if you want to apply it to TYBW Kenpachi (Post Unohana training) or any above version for him.
Good luck man .Also ngl when I finish my Finals on February I will open a YouTube Channel about Bleach.
Imagine how some mods/users feel after being here for years and seeing the same type of new people always suggesting outrageous upgrades and drastic powerscaling changes.
How some staff are so eager to police certain verses (such as bleach in this case) while certain verses (I'm looking at a certain JRPG and a certain Light Novel...) get bloated to all hell and have pretty much no policing to the same level as verses like bleach.
Idk man...I just find it funny how a good amount of bleach related revisions are dismissed as "outrageous upgrades" and "drastic powerscaling" while you get other verses on here (cough a certain famous JRPG cough) that get a pass for some of the most dubious scaling and get padded to all hell at a higher level than bleach and don't even get the same amount of policing.
Can't be present / knowledgeable for every verse, I'm afraid. There's more than 2,000 verses on here, covering a wide range of fiction. For a lot of this stuff, it can be difficult to verify or even be aware that something is wrong when looking through the profiles.
We have bleach feats forI've been in this wiki for about 7 years now (I was here during the time vsb chat was still a thing....) but fell off during the last 3 years and have only started to recently post again (a bit, kinda). During the time I was not active here, I got to witness a good amount of outside perspective regarding this wiki and this line in particular reminds me of one of those perspectives.
How some staff are so eager to police certain verses (such as bleach in this case) while certain verses (I'm looking at a certain JRPG and a certain Light Novel...) get bloated to all hell and have pretty much no policing to the same level as verses like bleach.
Idk man...I just find it funny how a good amount of bleach related revisions are dismissed as "outrageous upgrades" and "drastic powerscaling" while you get other verses on here (cough a certain famous JRPG cough) that get a pass for some of the most dubious scaling and get padded to all hell at a higher level than bleach and don't even get the same amount of policing.
Another seperate space time. Dangai .We have bleach feats for
SK dividing original universe into 3 parts.
There are star to possibly solar system level sized pocket dimensions in valley of screams.
Infinite sized Garganta
Infinite sized muken.
Pocket dimensions creation by Yukio.
Quincies creating their own dimensions.
Gremmy creation feats
Royal palace is another pocket dimension.
Even it's implied that Aizen kinda created a star inside las noches.
Lmao yeah bleach has no feats to back up anything according to wiki.
infinite muken got debunkedWe have bleach feats for
SK dividing original universe into 3 parts.
There are star to possibly solar system level sized pocket dimensions in valley of screams.
Infinite sized Garganta
Infinite sized muken.
Pocket dimensions creation by Yukio.
Quincies creating their own dimensions.
Gremmy creation feats
Royal palace is another pocket dimension.
Even it's implied that Aizen kinda created a star inside las noches.
Lmao yeah bleach has no feats to back up anything according to wiki.