BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Tyri456]

they can control it like they want.

 

[AppleLord]

Jnovels

Thanks.

 

[AppleLord]

Sorry whats your point. Its pretty obvious Ichigo has more Reatsu than other characters. He doesn't know how to use it that's all. Unlike Aizen he doesn't have Killin intent. If he want to let loose like Aizen pretty sure many bodies would be fall around. also how Its plot hole

Why didn’t Ichigo’s friends died? Aizen and Stark know how to control their Reiatsu and souls die around them?

 

[Deceived3596]

Dropped the thread check it out.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Why didn’t Ichigo’s friends died? Aizen and Stark know how to control their Reiatsu and souls die around them?

He doesn't let you know reastu is produced from Reiryoku. Also Ichigo Friends probably better soul resistance than those hollows stark killed

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Sorry whats your point. Its pretty obvious Ichigo has more Reatsu than other characters. He doesn't know how to use it that's all. Unlike Aizen he doesn't have Killin intent. If he want to let loose like Aizen pretty sure many bodies would be fall around. also how Its plot hole

that is true at the start of the series, as the story goes on he learns to control it, and at the war arc he has control over it

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

He doesn't let you know reastu is produced from Reiryoku. Also Ichigo Friends probably better soul resistance than those hollows stark killed

if i rememeber right, because ichigo was leaking Reiatsu around him, his friends souls started to get stronger

u know, exposure type stuff

 

[Tyri456]

He doesn't let you know reastu is produced from Reiryoku. Also Ichigo Friends probably better soul resistance than those hollows stark killed

Well it’s true
people that say near Ichigo gradually gain a lot of soul resistance

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

if i rememeber right, because ichigo was leaking Reiatsu around him, his friends souls started to get stronger

u know, exposure type stuff

Yeah more of how Yhwach shares his soul with others and gives them power Ichigo was boosting his surroundings people.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Well it’s true
people that say near Ichigo gradually gain a lot of soul resistance

Yeah I know.

 

[Gitagon]

While Aizen and Starkk's high Reiatsu harmed people, Ichigo's leaking reaitsu actually benefited those around him.

 

[GroundX1]

Arc is planning a Christmas present for us:

It's not Bleach MFTL:

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

 

[Luziifero]

Does anybody besides kenpachi have durability negation resistance?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Does anybody besides kenpachi have durability negation resistance?

Hey if Reatsu passes thru soul resistance and crushes the opponent then it should get Durability Negation right.

 

[Luziifero]

Hey if Reatsu passes thru soul resistance and crushes the opponent then it should get Durability Negation right.

I mean, it probably should

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Ichigo probably should get Durability Negation. One of Yhwach dreams showed him Killin Yhwach in sleep. Basically Jugram ability didn't stopped that. I mean Jugram sends all future possibilities to Yhwach.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Soul crush chain

done by decieve

Tatsuki <<< SS Arc Lieutenants <<< SS Arc Captains <<< TYBW Lieutenants <<< TYBW Captains <<< Shinigami Aizen <<< Bankai Yamamoto <<< Hogyoku Form 1-3 <<< Butterfly Aizen <<< Dangai Ichigo <<< Mugetsu <<< Hollowfied Shikai Ichigo <<< Aizen <<< Soul King Yhwach << True Bankai Ichigo <<<<<< Prime Soul King.

what yall think? missing something?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Soul crush chain

done by decieve

Tatsuki <<< SS Arc Lieutenants <<< SS Arc Captains <<< TYBW Lieutenants <<< TYBW Captains <<< Shinigami Aizen <<< Bankai Yamamoto <<< Hogyoku Form 1-3 <<< Butterfly Aizen <<< Dangai Ichigo <<< Mugetsu <<< Hollowfied Shikai Ichigo <<< Aizen <<< Soul King Yhwach << True Bankai Ichigo <<<<<< Prime Soul King.

what yall think? missing something?

Isn't having better Reiryoku makes characters resistance stronger.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Isn't having better Reiryoku makes characters resistance stronger.

this is a Soul crush scaling chain, is not by any means perfected yet

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

this is a Soul crush scaling chain, is not by any means perfected yet

I have some other idea but it's not that different anyway. I will try to drop it Later.

 

[Gitagon]

I don't want to say it but soul crush as a power is pretty much bullshit. Most of it is usually one-sided due to rank where the other side doesn't defend themselves like with Aizen and Grimmjow.

Aizen is "pressuring" Grimmjow but it's not like Grimmjow put up any defence or tried to counter due to the difference in authority.

The other times it's used offensively was Aizen against defenseless mortal humans (although this wasn't soul crush perse but Aizen just letting his spiritual pressure run free) and Starkk against fodder hollows which again can be attributed to his lack of control.

No one significant has really ever been soul crushed in a fight.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

I don't want to say it but soul crush as a power is pretty much bullshit. Most of it is usually one-sided due to rank where the other side doesn't defend themselves like with Aizen and Grimmjow.

Aizen is "pressuring" Grimmjow but it's not like Grimmjow put up any defence or tried to counter due to the difference in authority.

The other times it's used offensively was Aizen against defenseless mortal humans (although this wasn't soul crush perse but Aizen just letting his spiritual pressure run free) and Starkk against fodder hollows which again can be attributed to his lack of control.

No one significant has really ever been soul crushed in a fight.

u are aware they already have an innate resistance to it right? there is no "he could not defend himself" as if they had to put up a barrier or something, u are strong enought u dont get affected, if u are weak u get affected is that simple

are u insinuating that grimmjow can defended and resist aizen? the man they follow and obey just cus of his power, the same man known to be a thread cus of his monstrous spiritual energy?

thats not an antifeat

no one significant cus they already have resistance to such things

also if u are implying that soul crush is AP based, then i guess Tatsuki gets a possibly 6-C cus she could resist yammys soul crush

 

[AppleLord]

I don't want to say it but soul crush as a power is pretty much bullshit. Most of it is usually one-sided due to rank where the other side doesn't defend themselves like with Aizen and Grimmjow.

Aizen is "pressuring" Grimmjow but it's not like Grimmjow put up any defence or tried to counter due to the difference in authority.

The other times it's used offensively was Aizen against defenseless mortal humans (although this wasn't soul crush perse but Aizen just letting his spiritual pressure run free) and Starkk against fodder hollows which again can be attributed to his lack of control.

No one significant has really ever been soul crushed in a fight.

You can try and resist Reiatsu but you won’t get far.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

really miss soul madness

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I don't want to say it but soul crush as a power is pretty much bullshit. Most of it is usually one-sided due to rank where the other side doesn't defend themselves like with Aizen and Grimmjow.

Aizen is "pressuring" Grimmjow but it's not like Grimmjow put up any defence or tried to counter due to the difference in authority.

The other times it's used offensively was Aizen against defenseless mortal humans (although this wasn't soul crush perse but Aizen just letting his spiritual pressure run free) and Starkk against fodder hollows which again can be attributed to his lack of control.

No one significant has really ever been soul crushed in a fight.

Those fodder hollows have more power than normal souls aka pulses.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No one significant has really ever been soul crushed in a fight.

TYBW Aizen literally Soul crushed Kido members and he even soul crushed the monsters whatever you call those things

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

TYBW Aizen literally Soul crushed Kido members and he even soul crushed the monsters whatever you call those things

eye ball monsters

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

eye ball monsters

Thanks. Anyway there are feats for soul crush. Above guy probably not read whole Series.

 

[Khaostichny]

This here can also be used for Soul Crush scale chain.

Spoiler

Soul Crush is clearly killing the Hollows, but Plus is unaffected and note that the Captains and Espadas are over 20 km away. And from this guy's speaking, it's obvious that Reatsu was being released indiscriminately and that they weren't specifically targeting the Hollows.

And we can say this guy is a believable source, because he was clearly added to this scene specifically to explain what happened to the Hollows. I imagine there must have been people who didn't understand the scene in the manga or the anime director thought his viewers were dumb.

And another thing to remember is that civilians resist Reatsu from low-level Hollows and Gillian's.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

liked his "if we don't get out of here, we will end up like them" line

 

[Deceived3596]

liked his "if we don't get out of here, we will end up like them" line

That entire anime scene is Anime-Only filler that doesn't show up in the Manga so i wouldn't use that as evidence for any scaling chain regarding Reiatsu Crush.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

That entire anime scene is Anime-Only filler that doesn't show up in the Manga so i wouldn't use that as evidence for any scaling chain regarding Reiatsu Crush.

not saying that we should use it or that it is canon

just saying i like that line he said

 

[Deceived3596]

not saying that we should use it or that it is canon

just saying i like that line he said

Ok? The context behind what you said made it sound like you were actively agreeing with what Khao posted. but if that wasn't your intention then disregard what i said.

 

[W0NDER3X]

Aizen didn't simply soul crush Kido members, he literally told Shunsui not to get too close to him, indicating that Shunsui would've got erased as well.

 

[Khaostichny]

That entire anime scene is Anime-Only filler that doesn't show up in the Manga so i wouldn't use that as evidence for any scaling chain regarding Reiatsu Crush.

I've already given my opinion on that, I think we should consider what he said valid, even if he's a filler character, as clearly his purpose for being included in that scene was to explain what happened to the Hollows. Keep in mind that I'm telling us to consider his explanation valid, not the character itself.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That entire anime scene is Anime-Only filler that doesn't show up in the Manga so i wouldn't use that as evidence for any scaling chain regarding Reiatsu Crush.

Anime canon*.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Aizen didn't simply soul crush Kido members, he literally told Shunsui not to get too close to him, indicating that Shunsui would've got erased as well.

Yeah. People just forgets many things

 

[Gitagon]

Thanks. Anyway there are feats for soul crush. Above guy probably not read whole Series.

There is no need to throw jabs. There is nothing of Bleach I haven't read including the novels. I just think Soul Crush only has feats against fodders.

 

[Tyri456]

Soul crush chain

done by decieve

Tatsuki <<< SS Arc Lieutenants <<< SS Arc Captains <<< TYBW Lieutenants <<< TYBW Captains <<< Shinigami Aizen <<< Bankai Yamamoto <<< Hogyoku Form 1-3 <<< Butterfly Aizen <<< Dangai Ichigo <<< Mugetsu <<< Hollowfied Shikai Ichigo <<< Aizen <<< Soul King Yhwach << True Bankai Ichigo <<<<<< Prime Soul King.

what yall think? missing something?

The scaling chain is correct but

don’t you need feat for layer? After Mugestu we don’t have feat. So Mugestu should be on the same layer of Prime soul king Because there is no “higher” reiastu crush. What is the reasoning of the layer after Mugestu