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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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And Ukitakte said Shikai Yamamoto's flames were transcendent.
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Ok, so he's their relative now.What part of changing the past you didn't understand?
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He's hispanic now, he's Orihime's incestual brother as well
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Base Yama < Transcendent Aizen < God Aizen ~< Dangai Ichigo < Renji ~ Fullbring Ichigo ~ Tsukishima ~ LAA Byakuya ~ Shikai Kenpachi ~ Shikai Yamamoto one arm < Bankai Yama 1 arm ~ Base Yhwach < Post RG Byakuya = < CFYOW Byakuya ~ Tokinada < Full Transcendent Shikai Yama 2 arms < Full Transcendent Bankai Yama 2 arms
I saw a post in Comic Vine that completely explains how the Fullbringers are above Dangai and God transcendent forms using the manga scans and it completely made sense to me.
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When a fullbringer dies the traces of their powers are erase from the timeline. Meaning if Tsukishima dies again Ichigo's bankai goes bye bye again...
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Yamamoto tanking his own Shikai overtime flames which would scale above his regular flames because he needed to prep the overtime flames.
Base Aizen stabbing Yamamoto.
Base Aizen tanking Yamamoto's sacrificial kido.
Fourth Fusion Aizen saying he's transcended all Shinigami after directly witnessing the power of Yamamoto's flames with prep.
Yes Apple, not only does Base Aizen scale to Shikai Yamamoto, Fourth Fusion Aizen entirely transcends Shikai Yamamoto.
If you argue Fullbring Ichigo = Dangai Ichigo it produces the following scaling chain.
Base Aizen ~ Shikai Yama < Fourth Fusion Aizen <<< Dangai Ichigo ~ Fullbring Ichigo ~ Tsukishima ~ LAA Byakuya <<< CFYOW Byakuya ~ Tokinada < Shikai Yama
This is the definition of circular scaling, aka a contradiction, cry about it, cope, run from it, whatever you do, it is inevitable, LAA characters get dicked on by Dangai Ichigo.
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I'd so wish that would happen. That Bankai can go **** itself
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It's worth noting that Yamamoto has likely never hit Shunsui with the full power of his Shikai flames (considering Shunsui is like a son to Yama), meaning that the Shikai Yama that Tokinada scales below is likely weaker than the Shikai Yama that Aizen scales to. Even more of a gg.
Since Shunsui is the one who says "Toki's Ryujin Jakka < Yama's".
Since Shunsui is the one who says "Toki's Ryujin Jakka < Yama's".
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Base Yamamoto tanking FULL OVERTIME FLAMES from his own Shikai.
Yamamoto let himself get stabbed to grabbed Aizen's hand.
Aizen got small burns from Base Yamamoto's kido while he had already tanked flames from his shikai.
You can answer your own question.
No. lol
Let's see.
You made an error in the scaling. oops
Is the definition of you wanking feats that are not even there.
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Lol no
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Please stop
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Why do people keep telling me to shut up about the truth? Just because you didn't like the arc, characters, or lack of AP feats doesn't mean you can trash them out base on your feelings.
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At least I'm not lying to myself that the "characters are trash so they can't be that strong." I'll gradually take the L knowing you lost the debate.
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How tf can u say that when unmasked says Aizen transcended everything at that point
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You didn't respond, so you remain debunked.
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And Arc says the Earth is flat.
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Sure buddy whatever helps you sleep at night, everyone agrees with me anyhow.
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At least I'm not lying to myself that the "characters are trash so they can't be that strong." I'll gradually take the L knowing you lost the debate.
U are bringing a link from the same guy who scales Shunsui to Yama just because Shunsui became the new captain commander, amazing
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Jushiro calls his flames "transcendent"
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We still doing some trollin? Or is it safe to come back?
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Soul Society arc
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SS arc, when he bout to face yamaji
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"Everyone is wrong and debunked, I remain right and undebunked."
-Every stubborn debater ever
-Every stubborn debater ever
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You literally put Renji above post Dangai Ichigo bro.
Just because you want to put tsukishima above god Aizen, when we literally don’t know nothing about that past, and doesn’t even make sense With the scaling.
It was even difficult for people to put Post Dangai Ichigo on par with true Shikai initially for how strong he was, this is some weird as **** scaling, the narrative is pretty clear about the tiering of God Aizen and Dangai Ichigo.
and I really liked that arc, it’s not because I don’t like it.
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Without Tsukishima and Ginjo in the picture, Yhwach would have won and wouldn't had gotten cut in half.
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You thinking you debunked me =/= I'm debunked.
I'm done talking with you over this cuz it's clearly going in circles and everyone agrees with me anyhow. I've got the majority vote secured, thus I've copped the bag and I'm out. I have nothing left to prove to you.
Move on bud.
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Imagine debating with Apple on scaling. Good luck.
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This is not obviously the same thing, stop manipulating context.
Pure Shinigami can’t even reach that level because they have an inner limit, the very transcendental pressure was obtained by Aizen, look again at Urahara and Isshin reaction, it’s completely different, everyone could feel yamamoto reiastu.
this has nothing to do with that, also because it was never brought up before by Aizen that knew Yamamoto.
This is just a fancy way to say he was strong by Ukitake. But it has nothing to do to the type of spiritual pressure obtained by Ichigo and Aizen.
