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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

except he still had his sword which is not broken and on the novels we are told he got his power back
Ichigo's bankai remains broken from his last battle with Yhwach. The light novels said the powers Yhwach took returned to him, so Ichigo got the reiatsu Yhwach took back. Ichigo is now x2 stronger but actually weaker since his bankai broke. Basically, he is at the same power level with his broken bankai.
 
Ichigo's bankai remains broken from his last battle with Yhwach. The light novels said the powers Yhwach took returned to him, so Ichigo got the reiatsu Yhwach took back. Ichigo is now x2 stronger but actually weaker since his bankai broke. Basically, he is at the same power level with his broken bankai.
saying the bankai broke means the sword broke, do u see ichigo with no sword on there?
 
Ichigo's bankai remains broken from his last battle with Yhwach. The light novels said the powers Yhwach took returned to him, so Ichigo got the reiatsu Yhwach took back. Ichigo is now x2 stronger but actually weaker since his bankai broke. Basically, he is at the same power level with his broken bankai.
We don't exactly have confirmation on that.

Ichigo was working with solely Shinigami powers when he killed Yhwach, so the Hollow/Quincy part breaking away isn't inherently meaning his Bankai "broke", rather it lost its Hollow/Quincy parts since Yhwach stole em.
 
saying the bankai broke means the sword broke, do u see ichigo with no sword on there?
Parts of Renji's old bankai broke and were never replaced leaving his snake bankai shorter. The big sword became the shell that covered the small sword (the big sword was the white sword) was destroyed by Yhwach leaving his bankai looking like his old shikai.
 
Parts of Renji's old bankai broke and were never replaced leaving his snake bankai shorter. The big sword became the shell that covered the small sword (the big sword was the white sword) was destroyed by Yhwach leaving his bankai looking like his old shikai.
seems a lot of speculation
 
We don't exactly have confirmation on that.

Ichigo was working with solely Shinigami powers when he killed Yhwach, so the Hollow/Quincy part breaking away isn't inherently meaning his Bankai "broke", rather it lost its Hollow/Quincy parts since Yhwach stole em.
Do you have confirmation of that claim? His sword didn't broke immediately, change form, or remove the white shell when he penetrated Yhwach and Getsuga Tensho him from behind. The sword took A LOT of beating during that final chapters before it broke.
 
Ichigo's bankai remains broken from his last battle with Yhwach. The light novels said the powers Yhwach took returned to him, so Ichigo got the reiatsu Yhwach took back. Ichigo is now x2 stronger but actually weaker since his bankai broke. Basically, he is at the same power level with his broken bankai.
Or, and stay with me on this, maybe, just maybe, Ichigo being able to neg Yhwach where he couldn’t before with his “broken” Bankai means that Ichigo is still at the same level of big stronk and getting back the power he lost before means he is even more big stronk and superior to his True Bankai that Yhwach snapped in half.
 
Do you have confirmation of that claim? His sword didn't broke immediately, change form, or remove the white shell when he penetrated Yhwach and Getsuga Tensho him from behind. The sword took A LOT of beating during that final chapters before it broke.
It didn't break, we are literally told the outer shell peeled away revealing the Zangetsu that appears within.
 
Or, and stay with me on this, maybe, just maybe, Ichigo being able to neg Yhwach where he couldn’t before with his “broken” Bankai means that Ichigo is still at the same level of big stronk and getting back the power he lost before means he is even more big stronk and superior to his True Bankai that Yhwach snapped in half.
I had a stroke reading this. What?
 
Or, and stay with me on this, maybe, just maybe, Ichigo being able to neg Yhwach where he couldn’t before with his “broken” Bankai means that Ichigo is still at the same level of big stronk and getting back the power he lost before means he is even more big stronk and superior to his True Bankai that Yhwach snapped in half.
I understood kekw
 
It didn't break, we are literally told the outer shell peeled away revealing the Zangetsu that appears within.
Scan? I never read when were told the outer shell peeled away? It was broken by Yhwach again.

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broken bankai = no sword cus bankai is sword
new chapter = has a sword
The sword took a beating during the final fight and broke at the end. The white parts are part of the sword, while it didn't completely broke it had parts of it broken like Renji's old bankai.
 
I had a stroke reading this. What?
The Zangetsu Within that you call “broken”, one tapped Yhwach and took repeated hits from Yhwach without breaking. His previous TB amped by his Hollow form got snapped in half like a toothpick. This means that the “broken” Bankai > his Bankai, and Ichigo regaining the powers Yhwach took (said weaker Bankai) means he is now currently = the “broken” Bankai and his Bankai.

No matter how you look at it, Ichigo is stronger than he has ever been.
 
The Zangetsu Within that you call “broken”, one tapped Yhwach and took repeated hits from Yhwach without breaking. His previous TB amped by his Hollow form got snapped in half like a toothpick. This means that the “broken” Bankai > his Bankai, and Ichigo regaining the powers Yhwach took (said weaker Bankai) means he is now currently = the “broken” Bankai and his Bankai.

No matter how you look at it, Ichigo is stronger than he has ever been.
Tbf, Yhwach did break his bankai the first time with the Almighty just like snapping his horn off with it. Idk if he used it on him in the final fight but it looks like he just used concussive blasts
 
Tbf, Yhwach did break his bankai the first time with the Almighty just like snapping his horn off with it. Idk if he used it on him in the final fight but it looks like he just used concussive blasts
he tried with the illusion but did not work, then when ichigo was gonna cut him he stop it with one arm
 
If the bankai was broken im sure ichigo could have gotten it fixed by orhime and tsukishima again
Tsukishima only fixed it the first time because Ginjo made him payed his debt. He won’t do it again. Ichigo during the entire series has shown to not ask anyone for help unless he is forced to do so.
 
he tried with the illusion but did not work, then when ichigo was gonna cut him he stop it with one arm
That was Aizen. Not ichigo. Yhwach intended to break Ichigo’s Bankai but broke KS and in the next panel we see KS with the same lines Yhwach out on Zangetsu.
 
The Zangetsu Within that you call “broken”, one tapped Yhwach and took repeated hits from Yhwach without breaking. His previous TB amped by his Hollow form got snapped in half like a toothpick. This means that the “broken” Bankai > his Bankai, and Ichigo regaining the powers Yhwach took (said weaker Bankai) means he is now currently = the “broken” Bankai and his Bankai.

No matter how you look at it, Ichigo is stronger than he has ever been.
He got Zenkai boost.
 
Tsukishima only fixed it the first time because Ginjo made him payed his debt. He won’t do it again. Ichigo during the entire series has shown to not ask anyone for help unless he is forced to do so.
Just Orihime would be enough. And why wouldn’t Tsukishima help him? They don’t have a grudge with each other anymore
 
i went back to the last chapter and noticed orihime said this .
now considering what kazui showed in this new chapter it seems like he has been to hell (assuming that was a portal to hell which seems very likely) multiple times and this isnt his first time
and it isnt implied that anyone (from the protagonist side) knows about kazui going to hell, and considering orihime has tsubaki watch her son (at least 2 years ago) its kinda weird that they dont know he goes to hell
so did orihime make tsuabaki stop watching over him? I would honestly doubt that considering he leaves the house when he isnt supposed to and orihime knows that, so kubo mightve forgotten about that(as its been 5 years) what do you guys think?
 
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