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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Ichigo's bankai remains broken from his last battle with Yhwach. The light novels said the powers Yhwach took returned to him, so Ichigo got the reiatsu Yhwach took back. Ichigo is now x2 stronger but actually weaker since his bankai broke. Basically, he is at the same power level with his broken bankai.
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saying the bankai broke means the sword broke, do u see ichigo with no sword on there?
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Like I said, my Japanese isn't reliable. I'm still a novice.
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We don't exactly have confirmation on that.
Ichigo was working with solely Shinigami powers when he killed Yhwach, so the Hollow/Quincy part breaking away isn't inherently meaning his Bankai "broke", rather it lost its Hollow/Quincy parts since Yhwach stole em.
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Parts of Renji's old bankai broke and were never replaced leaving his snake bankai shorter. The big sword became the shell that covered the small sword (the big sword was the white sword) was destroyed by Yhwach leaving his bankai looking like his old shikai.
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Someone wanna send me the kanji and I'll translate it or whenever I get around to rereading the chapter lol.
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seems a lot of speculation
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Do you have confirmation of that claim? His sword didn't broke immediately, change form, or remove the white shell when he penetrated Yhwach and Getsuga Tensho him from behind. The sword took A LOT of beating during that final chapters before it broke.
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I was repeating what the scans I posted before show
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broken bankai = no sword cus bankai is sword
new chapter = has a sword
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Or, and stay with me on this, maybe, just maybe, Ichigo being able to neg Yhwach where he couldn’t before with his “broken” Bankai means that Ichigo is still at the same level of big stronk and getting back the power he lost before means he is even more big stronk and superior to his True Bankai that Yhwach snapped in half.
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It didn't break, we are literally told the outer shell peeled away revealing the Zangetsu that appears within.
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I had a stroke reading this. What?
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Scan? I never read when were told the outer shell peeled away? It was broken by Yhwach again.
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The sword took a beating during the final fight and broke at the end. The white parts are part of the sword, while it didn't completely broke it had parts of it broken like Renji's old bankai.
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The Zangetsu Within that you call “broken”, one tapped Yhwach and took repeated hits from Yhwach without breaking. His previous TB amped by his Hollow form got snapped in half like a toothpick. This means that the “broken” Bankai > his Bankai, and Ichigo regaining the powers Yhwach took (said weaker Bankai) means he is now currently = the “broken” Bankai and his Bankai.
No matter how you look at it, Ichigo is stronger than he has ever been.
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Tbf, Yhwach did break his bankai the first time with the Almighty just like snapping his horn off with it. Idk if he used it on him in the final fight but it looks like he just used concussive blasts
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he tried with the illusion but did not work, then when ichigo was gonna cut him he stop it with one arm
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yea, as we know he does not like being powerless
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Isn’t that why it didn’t work? Because it was an illusion and not actually his sword?
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aizen was not controlling what YH saw so idk
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Tsukishima only fixed it the first time because Ginjo made him payed his debt. He won’t do it again. Ichigo during the entire series has shown to not ask anyone for help unless he is forced to do so.
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That was Aizen. Not ichigo. Yhwach intended to break Ichigo’s Bankai but broke KS and in the next panel we see KS with the same lines Yhwach out on Zangetsu.
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He got Zenkai boost.
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Just Orihime would be enough. And why wouldn’t Tsukishima help him? They don’t have a grudge with each other anymore
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what are you guys even debating
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How? Like How. XD
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I guess when Ichigo slammed his skull into the ground, he died lol
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Seems like Bleach is also going through its own "Is that Six paths sage mode?, did he lose it why does it look so different" phase.
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But unlike Kishi, Kubo will never tell us cuz he doesn’t like explaining things unless it’s a Visored so he can neg them real quick.
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I come back after shitty internet for weeks only to find out we're getting a hell verse 2: Electric Boogaloo and that Kazui needs therapy? Life is good.
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i went back to the last chapter and noticed orihime said this .
now considering what kazui showed in this new chapter it seems like he has been to hell (assuming that was a portal to hell which seems very likely) multiple times and this isnt his first time
and it isnt implied that anyone (from the protagonist side) knows about kazui going to hell, and considering orihime has tsubaki watch her son (at least 2 years ago) its kinda weird that they dont know he goes to hell
so did orihime make tsuabaki stop watching over him? I would honestly doubt that considering he leaves the house when he isnt supposed to and orihime knows that, so kubo mightve forgotten about that(as its been 5 years) what do you guys think?
now considering what kazui showed in this new chapter it seems like he has been to hell (assuming that was a portal to hell which seems very likely) multiple times and this isnt his first time
and it isnt implied that anyone (from the protagonist side) knows about kazui going to hell, and considering orihime has tsubaki watch her son (at least 2 years ago) its kinda weird that they dont know he goes to hell
so did orihime make tsuabaki stop watching over him? I would honestly doubt that considering he leaves the house when he isnt supposed to and orihime knows that, so kubo mightve forgotten about that(as its been 5 years) what do you guys think?
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Yhwach use Almighty to break his bankai after he revived.
